Trump Re Ukraine

[Notch7]

Yes agreed, however I am still a bit confused over this. Yes Putin invaded Ukraine and that is undisputed but I am uncertain if Zelenski did indeed have the chance to peace talks and evaded this. I also believe that we the west have prolonged this war by supplying arms and money. It is just prolonging the enevitable and causing unneccessary suffering and deaths.

Its fine to have opinions, but it doesnt further the debate in any way

what is more useful is if you can provide evidence to support your assertions

for example you think the West have prolonged this, can you explain why?

personally I think the West have prolonged it by trickle feeding the supply of arms over a period of 3 years, what they should of done is to have made a massive show of strength before the invasion, or if not soon after

Ukraine initially pushed back Russian forces and retook a load of ground, but Russian forces then had an opportunity to build significant defences making it very hard for Ukraine for break through and havent

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Sort of said that in my stating we have supplied money and arms. that is how we are guilty of prolonging the war. In response to your suggestion that we go in gun ho and show strength is not a strategy that anyone wants. We do not start a fight with Russia and end it there. That would start WW3 and not a great option.

Who is suggesting starting a war with Russia? Straight out of the pootin Trump book

Giving Ukraine what it needs to defend itself is support, not aggression

 

[Highway Man]

Show where notchy suggested it then

personally I think the West have prolonged it by trickle feeding the supply of arms over a period of 3 years, what they should of done is to have made a massive show of strength before the invasion, or if not soon after

 

[carmanmemoranda]

personally I think the West have prolonged it by trickle feeding the supply of arms over a period of 3 years, what they should of done is to have made a massive show of strength before the invasion, or if not soon after

That's a debatable point, not without merit.

But it's not declaring war on Russia as you claimed

 

[Highway Man]

That's a debatable point, not without merit.

But it's not declaring war on Russia as you claimed

`so how do you take it then? a massive show of strength before or shortly after the invasion, define a massive show of strength?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

`so how do you take it then? a massive show of strength before or shortly after the invasion, define a massive show of strength?

Swerve. Not going there.

I agree with giving Ukraine the support it needs (or as much as possible) to DEFEND. ITSELF

 

[Highway Man]

Swerve. Not going there.

I agree with giving Ukraine the support it needs (or as much as possible) to DEFEND. ITSELF

but that is what we are and have been doing, so please define this massive show of strength other than what we are already doing?

 

[transam]

Fact is if One takes Trump at his word ??

Does as he says or take his threats seriously

The UK / Europe could well imho find itself in direct military conflict with poo tins Russia during this parliament

War ?????????

 

[Highway Man]

Fact is if One takes Trump at his word ??

Does as he says or take his threats seriously

The UK / Europe could well imho find itself in direct military conflict with poo tins Russia during this parliament

War ?????????

That is now very much closer than we were a few weeks ago.

 

[blup]

Can we not get past this old propoganda theory? wipe out the Trump fan from your mind and come into the 21st century.

He’s here because of his fans who can’t distinguish between a realty tv show and reality

 

[Brigadier]

NSFW

Spot on though

 

[Lirefighter]

Fact is if One takes Trump at his word ??

Does as he says or take his threats seriously

The UK / Europe could well imho find itself in direct military conflict with poo tins Russia during this parliament

War ?????????

We (UK and Europe) are not going to war with Russia.

 

[transam]

We (UK and Europe) are not going to war with Russia.

Hope not but may have no choice some thing will kick off

Europe is now at its most dangerous since 1938/9 no doubt about it

I bet Taiwan have got squeaky b. Ums there heavily reliant on the US

Japan ??? Hmmm

A race for getting nukes ???

 

[transam]

South Korea ??? Squeaky b. Ums ???

Trump is an admirer of that fruit cake fat Kim ???

Apparently fat Kim wrote him ( trump)

A beautiful letter ( trumps words ) in his first term

 

[Lirefighter]

It all sells papers and gets clicks.
No doubt about it.