UK plans to drop climate package.

[denso13]

Or this?

 

[Deleted member 221031]

CW2 going mad I bet. Lol.

 

[johnny2007]

Yes, but not as rapidly as now. You are ignoring the facts.

There have been even more radid changes in the past, when we weren't around.

How do I know what?

That we are the cause of it?
Climate has been changing from the beginning of time, there were periods of "extreme" weather when we weren't around.
So how could you possibly claim we are solely responsible for this?

Which bits of the graphs are ******? Be specific.

All of it.
If, and only if, the earth climate is warming up (but that's disputed by many other graphs), it's only because the earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling.
Again, this has been happening since the earth was formed and trying to stop it not only is impossible, but totally wrong.

 

[denso13]

So how could you possibly claim we are solely responsible for this?

Because the facts support it. Stick your head in your comfy sand if you like.

If, and only if, the earth climate is warming up (but that's disputed by many other graphs), it's only because the earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling.
Again, this has been happening since the earth was formed and trying to stop it not only is impossible, but totally wrong.

Lies, and can I say, BOLL@X.

 

[johnny2007]

Because the facts support it. Stick your head in your comfy sand if you like.

Lies, and can I say, BOLL@X.

What facts???
The facts professed by the same people who tax us in the name of climate change?
The same people who are profiting from the going green?
I have my reservations regarding their "facts".

 

[denso13]

The facts professed by the same people who tax us in the name of climate change?

No

The same people who are profiting from the going green?

No

I have my reservations regarding their "facts".

BOLL@X

 

[Deleted member 221031]

It’s just another way to control use. Imagine not being an able to travel because you’ve used all your carbon allowance on a new Tv and sound bar.

Sounds crazy I know.

 

[denso13]

Imagine not being an able to travel because you’ve used all your carbon allowance on a new Tv and sound bar.

Yea. But that would just be sensationalist lies.

 

[Odds]

Disregarding the different changes our climate has endured in the past without our help is it too difficult to grasp the global challenges people face in different countries and assume a responsibility to help them out and curb our reliance on fossil fuels that undoubtedly contribute to global warming? As far as i can tell the deniers problem with this challenge is assuming an additional tax burden on the economy.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

The climate Is changing. I don't think anybody can deny that.

The question is, are we as a population, contributing to it. I'd like to see any constructive argument to say otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

Disregarding the different changes our climate has endured in the past without our help is it too difficult to grasp the global challenges people face in different countries and assume a responsibility to help them out and curb our reliance on fossil fuels that undoubtedly contribute to global warming? As far as i can tell the deniers problem with this challenge is assuming an additional tax burden on the economy.

I started the thread to highlight the uk can’t afford it’s climate plans after covid and the Ukraine war.

We will never get away from fossil fuels, there’s simply too much money in it for it to stop.

 

[johnny2007]

I started the thread to highlight the uk can’t afford it’s climate plans after covid and the Ukraine war.

We will never get away from fossil fuels, there’s simply too much money in it for it to stop.

There's more money in going "green".

 

[Deleted member 221031]

There's more money in going "green".

How so ?

 

[Odds]

I started the thread to highlight the uk can’t afford it’s climate plans after covid and the Ukraine war.

We will never get away from fossil fuels, there’s simply too much money in it for it to stop.

That's what the Shell CEO was saying this week; and he's probably right to say the world will require petroleum products in one form or another, just not nearly as much as we consume now. Perhaps they can begin accomodating electric vehicles on their garage forecourts? The infrastructure is already in place across the UK: why not?

 

[denso13]

The climate Is changing. I don't think anybody can deny that.

We have been pumping out billions of tons of greenhouse gases in many different forms, burning fossil fuels, travel emissions, etc., etc., since the start of the industrial revolution. That has never happened in earth's history before. The science of how greenhouse gases trap heat from the sun is well proven.

For some to believe that this has no detrimental effect on the climate is staggeringly stupid and naive.