Ukraine counter offensive

There'd be no war if Americans kept their word.:whistle:
NATO only expanded in the region due to Putins constant aggression

Putin was always going to invade, if NATO hadn’t been in the region, it would’ve happened earlier
 
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NATO only expanded in the region due to Putins constant aggression

Deflection from his failure to run Russia with any semblance of benefit for its people.

Just a variation on blaming a few dinghies for the state of everything.....
 
There'd be no war if Americans kept their word.:whistle:

That's funny.


When Ukraine handed over their nuclear weapons to Russia, Russia guaranteed the integrity of Ukraine's borders

But has done the opposite.

In related news, no nation with nuclear weapons has ever been invaded.
 
Said on the news (?) that the Germans won’t sanction supplying tanks untill the US do ???

Pussies ?
The US Abrahms MBT is a very complex system which has a gas turbine propulsion system.
The Challenger and Leopard MBTs are diesel which would be a less painful training programme for the Ukrainians.
The Poles are understandably nervous of Russia's intentions should Ukraine fall, so they may call Germany's bluff and send over their own Leopards.
 
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The T80 uses a gas turbine too I believe and they've captured some of those from Russia. The engine isn't enough to convince me that the Abrams is too complex, it feels like at least an oversimplification.
 
The T80 uses a gas turbine too I believe and they've captured some of those from Russia. The engine isn't enough to convince me that the Abrams is too complex, it feels like at least an oversimplification.

Or an excuse.
 
The T80 uses a gas turbine too I believe and they've captured some of those from Russia. The engine isn't enough to convince me that the Abrams is too complex, it feels like at least an oversimplification.
Ukraine use T 80s themselves with diesel engines, they will use captured ones until they stop, and probably replace the engine if possible, and why should the US supply the M1s first if the major countries in mainland Europe won't, think it's time they grew some balls.
 
Ukraine use T 80s themselves with diesel engines, they will use captured ones until they stop, and probably replace the engine if possible, and why should the US supply the M1s first if the major countries in mainland Europe won't, think it's time they grew some balls.

That's funny, some of the others say, if the most powerful country in the world, and dominant member of NATO won't....
 
That's funny, some of the others say, if the most powerful country in the world, and dominant member of NATO won't....
The US is giving at least 10 times more military support than Germany, how much more should they give than the directly threatened neighbour, no wonder many Americans question NATO, Europe can do a lot more to help itself.
 
The US has at least ten times more military resources than Germany.

It has more weapons than all the rest of the world put together.

It also has no history, and guilt, about invading Russia in the past.
 
The US has at least ten times more military resources than Germany.

It has more weapons than all the rest of the world put together.

It also has no history, and guilt, about invading Russia in the past.
Thats my point, they spend far less than the US and they and the rest of Europe expect the US to protect them, the countries at most risk are willing to supply Leopard 2 tanks, but Germany is saying you go first and we will follow you, what if the Americans had just turned their back on Ukraine, would Germany have just let russia do what they want, and give no military aid?

You always come up with the links between the Tory party and russia, i think the links with Germany and russia are at a far higher level with a former chancellor even working for them and always praising putin.
 
Germany is saying you go first and we will follow you

And America is saying the same.
Pootin is ecstatic.

I don't know how many millions were donated to the German cabinet by Russians. Do you? Was it as much as Johnson's mob got? Did they make a Russian a member of the House of Lords or equivalent? Despite warning from their Intelligence agency?

Thank you for raising that important point.





 
With out the US nato does not amount to a bag of beans

How many times do Americans have to send there sons and daughters to die in Europe sorting out European wars and conflicts

The Germans need to act like they have got a pair ffs

They are and always been the loose cannon in Nato

They have relied on the Americans for there defence for to long about time they stepped up to the plate ref defence instead of invading holiday resorts hogging deck chairs and having belching contests
 
And America is saying the same.
Pootin is ecstatic.

I don't know how many millions were donated to the German cabinet by Russians. Do you? Was it as much as Johnson's mob got? Did they make a Russian a member of the House of Lords or equivalent? Despite warning from their Intelligence agency?

Thank you for raising that important point.





So you come up with links with russia(again) that must be the reason were not supplying much to Ukraine, Germany on the other hand need US support to send tanks, pity they didn't heed American advice about gas pipelines.
 
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