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Senate Republicans have blocked a move to pass an aid bill for Ukraine after failing to secure border compromises they sought in exchange.

The $110bn (£87.3bn) package included $61bn for Ukraine...Republicans are insisting that any aid to Ukraine be tied to sweeping US immigration and asylum reforms. Senators voted 51 to 49 against advancing the bill, with 60 votes needed. The vote throws uncertainty into the future of aid for Ukraine and sends lawmakers back to the negotiating table with just days to go until Congress has scheduled winter break.

BBCnews.co.uk

If American funding for the Ukrainian war effort dries up, Zelensky has a huge problem - as well as facing criticism from the Mayor of Kyev, Vladimir Klitschko, and demands for an election he'd have a tough time getting any further aid from Europe. A hard winter ahead, i think.

The West has been drip feeding military support to Ukraine which has given Russia plenty of time to build substantial defences.

Ukraine can’t make a major break through of the Russian defences without lots of AirPower and artillery

without a major break through America wont provide the support.

it’s catch 22 for Ukraine, the West are providing enough to maintain a stalemate.


Its where politics and war strategy collide
 
No, a cut and spliced video is not a russian source.

You are an admirer of Putin, so obviously you have read his July 2021 essay.

Is there anything in it you think he did not mean?

How about his TV broadcast speech in February 2022?
 
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You are an admirer of Putin, so obviously you have read his July 2021 essay.

Is there anything in it you think he did not mean?

How about his TV broadcast speech in February 2022?
I am not a fan boy like you, so I don't follow him. In your words, what did he say?
 
In his first sentence, he expresses his opinion that Ukraine is not an independent nation.

I am not going to fall into your trap of being a non-Russian source that you refuse to believe.

Look it up yourself.
 
In his first sentence, he expresses his opinion that Ukraine is not an independent nation.
The man can express his opinion if he wanna. It wasn't the state policy. The russian state was OK for ukraine to be independent so long as it wasn't helping to exterminate russians. The help came in two ways, 1: acting as a shield for nato missile systems in eastern europe with a goal of exterminating russians in russia; 2: exterminating ethnic russians in ukraine. Since ukraine engaged in both acts, it is being taken out. A super power can allow neither to happen. Otherwise, what's the point of being a super power?
 
Russia is having to increase its defence spending by a massive amount which will kick in next year and mean subststanial cuts else where

It also does not have the manufacturing capability to sustain it’s ammo / shell / equipment losses and useage
Hence reliant on Kim il wat sit
And the mad mullers


With out poo tin going cap in hand to Kim they would have a problem

Due to substantial losses in man power poo tin will have to order another mobilisation next year to beef up the short fall / make good his losses

Any substantial success by poo tin in Ukraine will embolden the fruit cake to pass through (

( :ROFLMAO: ) other states

Moldova would be next on his hit list ???
 
The usual suspects / loose cannons in nato

Hungarians
Czechs

Mind you no surprise

There some what insignificant any way and poo tin brown nosers :giggle:
 
. The russian state was OK for ukraine to be independent so long as it wasn't helping to exterminate russians
Russian propaganda

Ukraine was not killing Russian speaking Ukrainians - Putin sent in Wagner group and Russian separatists to annexe Donbas in 2014.
 
Russian propaganda

Ukraine was not killing Russian speaking Ukrainians - Putin sent in Wagner group and Russian separatists to annexe Donbas in 2014.
In its three decades of independence, Ukraine has sought to forge its own path as a sovereign state while looking to align more closely with Western institutions, including the EU and NATO. However, Kyiv struggled to balance its foreign relations and to bridge deep internal divisions. A more nationalist, Ukrainian-speaking population in western parts of the country generally supported greater integration with Europe, while a mostly Russian-speaking community in the east favored closer ties with Russia. Approximately eight million ethnic Russians were living in Ukraine as of 2001, according to a census taken that year, mostly in the south and east. Moscow claimed a duty to protect these people as a pretext for its actions in Crimea and the Donbas in 2014.

Some Western analysts see Russia’s 2022 invasion as the culmination of the Kremlin’s growing resentment toward NATO’s post–Cold War expansion into the former Soviet sphere of influence. Russian leaders, including Putin, have alleged that the United States and NATO repeatedly violated pledges they made in the early 1990s to not expand the alliance into the former Soviet bloc. They view NATO’s enlargement during this tumultuous period for Russia as a humiliating imposition about which they could do little but watch.

In the weeks leading up to NATO’s 2008 summit, President Vladimir Putin warned U.S. diplomats that steps to bring Ukraine into the alliance “would be a hostile act toward Russia.” Months later, Russia went to war with Georgia, seemingly showcasing Putin’s willingness to use force to secure his country’s interests. (Some independent observers faulted Georgia for initiating the so-called August War but blamed Russia for escalating hostilities.)

Council on Foreign Relations.org
 
while a mostly Russian-speaking community in the east favored closer ties with Russia
It is hard to find any useful data to know what the Donbas region want, the evidence, such as it is, that does exist does not support the claim the Donbas region want closer ties to Russia.

two polls carried out in separatist areas find 55% in favour being part of Ukraine, it’s hard to know the truth.

Some Western analysts see Russia’s 2022 invasion as the culmination of the Kremlin’s growing resentment toward NATO’s post–Cold War expansion into the former Soviet sphere of influence
This is framing Putin as the victim.

”former Soviet sphere of influence” what that actually means is independent sovereign countries that have a right to choose to join NATO if they wish.


Surely it’s a weird idea to believe that the Kremlin should be able to exercise control over other countries defence and foreign policy.


The fact is Putin has been a continuous aggressor in the region and he is unhappy that he hasn’t been free to meddle in other countries at free will.

nobody has threatened Russia.
 
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