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[JohnD]

I wonder how many of those who despise, hate her, were around in the period before she became PM.

I wonder how many of those who love her were around when she was in power, and lost good jobs, or saw their communities destroyed, or had their homes repossessed when mortgage intetrest rates rocketed, or saw their sons and daughters leave school and find there was no work for them.

I wonder if they realised that it was Thatcher's policies that saw the return to Britain of the street-beggar

I wonder if they had relations in the mental hospitals that were closed down to be refurbished and sold on as luxury apartments, when their inmates were thrown out to fend for themselves. Care in the community my arse.

 

[Scoby_Beasley]

Maggie did say that Tony Blair would be an excellent PM as he was more Tory than she was. The only time she actually told the truth.

My dancing shoes are sparkling, so where's the b itche s grave gonna be?

 

[joe-90]

What you have to ask yourself is:

Were you better off in the 70s pre Thatcher than you are today?

If the answer is 'No' - then you must thank Thatcher for that.


As Andrew Marr said. "Love he or loathe her, one way or another, we are all Thatcher's children".

 

[mdf290]

I won't shed any tears as won't thousands of ex miners and their relatives.

Just drop the miners tear story will you...

The miners engineered their own downfall by pricing the product out of the market with union bully boy tactics , strikes and restrictive practices. They did not give a crap about anyone else. I remember my father in tears when he had to send his workers home when he had his electricity cut to three days a week for 3 months. He could not create enough product to reach profit for 3 months and so nearly went bust.
So there was no work left in the valleys when the mines shut so why did families stay put and sign on instead of leaving to find work like any sensible person. The miners had boatloads of cash thrown at them after the mines shut in incentives to start up businesses and grants to get big employers into the areas.

Coal became unviable when it was cheaper to buy from abroad and who's fault was that?

I am heartily sick to hear about 'the miners' again 30 years after the events...jeez move on!

 

[JohnD]

What you have to ask yourself is:

Were you better off in the 70s pre Thatcher than you are today?

If the answer is 'No' - then you must thank Thatcher for that.


As Andrew Marr said. "Love he or loathe her, one way or another, we are all Thatcher's children".

In 1970's Britain, your children would have got jobs, and could have bought houses. They would have learned to be useful and respected members of society.

Today?

There are families with three generations of unemployed. They have learned to be useless spongers.

 

[joe-90]

..and most people drove old cars or rode bicycles and there was no heating in the house. If you wanted a fridge it took months to save up for it.

The reason there are no jobs today is that it is cheaper to employ a ready trained migrant, and industry no-longer needs handle pullers or button pressers. There will always be the unemployables in modern society - and we are about to import a million more from Romania and Bulgaria. What use is a peasant in today's world?

Oh and BTW my children have jobs and houses and they are polite and respectful. They are also educated and well qualified.

 

[AronSearle]

..and most people drove old cars or rode bicycles and there was no heating in the house. If you wanted a fridge it took months to save up for it.

Yes, I remember my parents telling me they didn't use to have a bathroom, and used their sisters a few times a week, I looked at them rather strange when they said this.

Then when several other people told me they used to do similar, I just found it hard to believe.

Today?

There are families with three generations of unemployed. They have learned to be useless spongers.

Really, you want to blame the conservatives for the welfare state.

Really?

I wonder how many of those who love her were around when she was in power, and lost good jobs, or saw their communities destroyed, or had their homes repossessed when mortgage intetrest rates rocketed, or saw their sons and daughters leave school and find there was no work for them.

I wonder if they realised that it was Thatcher's policies that saw the return to Britain of the street-beggar

Economic correction is a bitch.

The choice was a hard crash and then recovery, or a slow weaning off and then stagnation recovery, neither is particularly pleasant or without pain, the view taken was the second option carried more long term risks.

 

[JohnD]

Today?

There are families with three generations of unemployed. They have learned to be useless spongers.

Really, you want to blame the conservatives for the welfare state.

Really?

ARSE. Thatcher did not introduce the welfare state.

I want to blame Thatcher's policies for consciously using high unemployment and high interest rates as economic weapons.

 

[AronSearle]

She used high unemployment as an economic weapon.

What on earth?

 

[JohnD]

did you really not know?

you'd better read up on (her version of) monetarism.

 

[AronSearle]

did you really not know?

you'd better read up on (her version of) monetarism.

No, I'd rather you explain your position, I'm not going to do it for you.

How was high unemployment a weapon, rather than an effect of policy change.

Explain.

 

[securespark]

Eeeh, the youngsters of today....

 

[sooey]

How was high unemployment a weapon, rather than an effect of policy change.

Are you really that stupid ??

 

[enyam]

I want to blame Thatcher's policies for consciously using high unemployment and high interest rates as economic weapons.

Today's policy is high unemployment with low interest rates,that works as well,not.

 

[AronSearle]

So yea, several posters going "ur dumb", yet no one able to explain how unemployment was an economic weapon, rather than an effect of policy change.

Change is a bitch, cutting subsidies meant people loosing their jobs.

It wasn't the weapon, it was the result.