What is the best Brexit deal we can realistically achieve?

[Corgigrouch GTi]

So you don't even believe what you write? All you can do is abuse.

Manufacturing industry do not want to leave the EU. Financial Services industry do not want to leave the EU (well, a part of it will just move of course). Any number of other industries say the same.

See also: academia, RnD, NHS..... to name a few.

Here is an eg: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40251190


Or you could look up a whole range of studies which pretty much come to the same conclusion: We will be worse off.

Anyone who uses the BBC as a point of reference deserves to feel that they are worse off, long may it continue for you.... All of this has already been covered ad infinitum in many posts but you just wish to bore us with your opinion.... You have come to this debate way too late There is nothing that you can do, you have done your best to win and you didn't.... If you feel that I am being abusive, then tough, I'll post you a tissue

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Its here https://ig.ft.com/eu-brexit-guidelines-annotated/?mhq5j=e2
click on the highlighted text for what they really mean.

So show me where this was said, intimated or intended:

Still waiting. It is pointless putting up a link that absolutely does not do what I asked.

When you work in the area of contractual/commercial/legal negotiations (as I do) your primary objective is make your position seem reasonable and the position of the other side seem unreasonable. If you can do this, you can get the other side to concede on the basis that you are acting reasonably. Do not for one minute think the soft reconciliatory language is anything other than that.

Thank you for the lecture.

Their primary goal is to put us through the mincer to stop any other member states getting similarly stupid ideas about leaving. They want money, control, jobs and opportunity to flow one way. They want to be able to say - "but look what happened to the UK" and for it to be off putting, not to see our success as a viable alternative.

Your unsupported biased opinion.
Please do not put up some nondescript links that you think support your opinion, but quite obviously and clearly do not!

 

[wobs]

Anyone who uses the BBC as a point of reference deserves to feel that they are worse off, long may it continue for you.... All of this has already been covered ad infinitum in many posts but you just wish to bore us with your opinion.... You have come to this debate way too late There is nothing that you can do, you have done your best to win and you didn't.... If you feel that I am being abusive, then tough, I'll post you a tissue

I have posted many times here on this issue, citing a whole range of sources. What was your point again?

 

[motorbiking]

Still waiting. It is pointless putting up a link that absolutely does not do what I asked.



Thank you for the lecture.


Your unsupported biased opinion.
Please do not put up some nondescript links that you think support your opinion, but quite obviously and clearly do not!

Its not my fault you don't understand.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

It is a future quote. i.e. fast forward 5 years and lets say France wants to leave the EU.

Hardly feasible considering the current situation in France.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

The more important question is : worse off than we were going to be, or worse off than we are now.

Both!

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Its not my fault you don't understand.

It is if you cannot explain yourself eloquently.
It is if you attempt to support your opinions with references that clearly do not support your opinion.
It is when you try to mislead the reader by misrepresenting the opinions expressed in your references.

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

I have posted many times here on this issue, citing a whole range of sources. What was your point again?

I wasn't trying to make a point but I am curious how you think that whinging to a load of DIYers is going to change anything

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

I wasn't trying to make a point but I am curious how you think that whinging to a load of DIYers is going to change anything

This is the discussion part of the site.
You want the jokes section.

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

This is the discussion part of the site.
You want the jokes section.

It's hardto tell the difference these days, John D Has filled the jokes section with sheeite too... Maybe he needed an overflow

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

It's hardto tell the difference these days, John D Has filled the jokes section with sheeite too... Maybe he needed an overflow

"sheeite" belongs in the joke section, surely?

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

"sheeite" belongs in the joke section, surely?

Really?

 

[wobs]

I wasn't trying to make a point but I am curious how you think that whinging to a load of DIYers is going to change anything

Its not winging, its discussing the issues, along with evidence. I find it far more constructive than insults/abuse.

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

Its not winging, its discussing the issues, along with evidence. I find it far more constructive than insults/abuse.

In your own tiny mind, perhaps but to the rest of us it's Whinging...Whining.... Bellyaching....Crying....Whatever, girlfriend..

 

[noseall]

but to the rest of us it's Whinging...Whining.... Bellyaching....Crying....Whatever, girlfriend..

Correct. The RWR ship is sinking and they have run out of life vests. Poor old RWR. Poor old lying Foxtrot.