What is wrong with people/the world?

[Bodd]

Filthy scum...

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[Bodd]

Filthy scum...

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[Bodd]

Not so pretty any more.... slag

 

[Bodd]

 

[sxturbo]

Bit strange why they lured the guy there, it seems he wasn't connected to the drug ring like the others were.

So massively disappointing, however the sentences imo are vaguely appropriate, even the mum and dad who helped have had long sentences.

Although I do feel the girl "supposed model" should have had a longer minimum term.

I can't believe they thought they would get away with it the idiots

 

[Notch7]

Yes social services seem to always get involved in the wrong things, they appear to be very misguided in much of what they do, they are a bit like police rather pull people over and ticket them for riding an e scooter than actually tackle real crime ,

but saying that it's also possible that it's another government department that's under funded due to millions being given to their "mates" instead.

Just as an FYI for anyone who wants to condemn me for saying the above, I've been through the system and its an absolute sh!! Show full of people who really have no clue what they are doing and bounce around from department to department in their own little bubble,

I have no faith in social services, especially the family courts

family courts are an inhuman system with zero fairness -they can get a court order to take away someones children without any opportunity for the parent to have fair representation

I recall one example where they took children away from the parents -and later found they had made a grave mistake, but the court then ruled the children must stay with foster parents as they had bonded.

 

[sxturbo]

I have no faith in social services, especially the family courts

family courts are an inhuman system with zero fairness -they can get a court order to take away someones children without any opportunity for the parent to have fair representation

I recall one example where they took children away from the parents -and later found they had made a grave mistake, but the court then ruled the children must stay with foster parents as they had bonded.

Something similar happened with my family when I was younger. It shattered my whole family and left us without a full support network, having thought about this quite a bit of late due to other events i don't think I ever realised how much it affected me. My dad and step mum were brilliant and really tried to make up for the family members that disappeared of whom I idolised as a little boy until they just magically stopped one day.

I shan't go into it in too much detail and I was only young at the time and memory is slightly vague and I've had to connect the dots and there still remains lots of questions, I've tried talking to my dad about it but he's not really been one to open up and he doesn't like to discuss it as it really cut him up, my step mum has discussed some of what happened but it still felt like she was holding back some information. He lost a daughter and his parents and close brothers because of it and I lost a sister, grand parents and uncles etc.

Anyway, from what I know of and having heard local stories, the social services do need to have a drastic overhaul, they generally seem to have zero compassion, and rather than help with a situation seem to believe the best course is to just remove the children without first trying to support a situation.

I don't know if it's because they see so much god awful stuff they become hard nosed and lose the compassion, and thus jump to conclusions, maybe the systems and processes are to rigid for flexibility, or the stakes to high for them to make a decision and thus rely on the robotic forms for guidance.

I don't know.

I just know that it's a shambles

 

[Deleted member 267285]

From what I’ve read/been told by solicitors, it’s whats in the best interest of the child - but how can that be determined by courts/social services?

 

[sxturbo]

From what I’ve read/been told by solicitors, it’s whats in the best interest of the child - but how can that be determined by courts/social services?

That's how it's supposed to be, it's easy to say it, but another to do it.

The courts and social services would form a pack of evidence against the parents and this would then be used for the judge to make a decision.

However the kids are usually already removed from the family home before it gets to court, and the court will usually just confirm the decision already made by social services.

In my sister's case I don't ever remember it going to court, my parents were informed they felt it best to remove her from the family home and to foster home so they can assess without any influence and offer her the help she needed. At some point she appears to have been brainwashed by the foster family and decided she no longer wanted to do the weekend family visits in a neutral location, and then when it was time to re-integrate her into the family, she was promised a lavish lifestyle if she stayed with the foster home to which she wouldn't get in the family home (we wasn't rich but at the same time far from poor, we had what we needed but didn't go abroad for holidays and it was known money was tight, my dad's divorce and subsequent having to give up work for a couple years to look after us kids put paid to that).

So she decided she wanted to stay with the foster home and cut all ties with us.

Apparently on the only time I met up with her since, at her request she said once she had made the decision the lavish lifestyle soon dried up and she ended up not getting on with the foster parents at all and was promptly kicked out as soon as she turned 16. At which point social services got her a flat etc.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

and rather than help with a situation seem to believe the best course is to just remove the children without first trying to support a situation.

My experience is of the opposite - failing to remove, when they really ought to, with lots of similar cases in the news. They cannot always get it right, in many cases they will be lacking in the full detail to make the correct or best decision.