What is wrong with people/the world?

[noseall]

It isn't only the teachers who are under stress.
Its the pupils who suffer as well, a disruptive pupil can hold back a whole class and affect their education.
Kids who mishaved in class used to get caned and the problem was sorted, nowadays it dealt with by exclusion, but even that is under threat of being outlawed by the liberal establishment, most of whom don't have to work in problem schools.
Kids who used to go special schools which could cater for their needs are now sent to regular state schools.
A lot of this kids can't cope in a normal school environment and so they start disrupting the rest of the class, they tend to be quite difficult to deal with due to their problems, if they end up being excluded the parents complain that their kids are being picked on.

Exclusion is a last resort. There are many processes that occur before then which includes the child's parents and a team of staff.

 

[transam]

Says Transam - the childless plumber.

More nonsense as per Noseall

 

[noseall]

Kids who mishaved in class used to get caned and the problem was sorted

Lol.

 

[sxturbo]

It isn't only the teachers who are under stress.
Its the pupils who suffer as well, a disruptive pupil can hold back a whole class and affect their education.
Kids who mishaved in class used to get caned and the problem was sorted, nowadays it dealt with by exclusion, but even that is under threat of being outlawed by the liberal establishment, most of whom don't have to work in problem schools.
Kids who used to go special schools which could cater for their needs are now sent to regular state schools.
A lot of this kids can't cope in a normal school environment and so they start disrupting the rest of the class, they tend to be quite difficult to deal with due to their problems, if they end up being excluded the parents complain that their kids are being picked on.

kids have a wail of a time in "exclusion" we had a room at our school they were "excluded" to, once they go there they get handed work, but the teachers dont give a monkey's whether they complete it or not, some get expelled from school, and just sit at home on their playstation, few parents give a rats bum, but that is likely the reason the kids are like that int he first place.

the trick is to council the child, try and get through tot hem one way or another, unfortunately schools dont have the resources required,

 

[noseall]

kids have a wail of a time in "exclusion"

Not especially.

the trick is to council the child, try and get through tot hem one way or another, unfortunately schools dont have the resources required,

Effort is required both from those dealing with excluded pupils, the parents and the pupil themselves. My wife occasionally gets a gift or a card at the end of term. Some pupils are grateful some years later.

 

[Mottie]

I only deal/dealt with kids that the schools couldn’t handle. All were 1:1 tutor/pupil students and some were 2:1 pupils.

I can’t say I had a 100% success rate with them but I would put it at 80% upwards. This is one of my proudest leaving presents I got from one of them.

 

[sxturbo]

I only deal/dealt with kids that the schools couldn’t handle. All were 1:1 tutor/pupil students and some were 2:1 pupils.

I can’t say I had a 100% success rate with them but I would put it at 80% upwards. This is one of my proudest leaving presents I got from one of them.

not all kids are academic, and not all little poops are just bad eggs. More needs to be done to support those, the school system needs to learn that not all children thrive in a class room environment, there is soo many reasons for kids to lash out and be a "problem" child,

think jamie oliver took a load of disruptive children on in his restaurants, once the weeds were removed, they all flourished and gave them a sense of purpose, the kids werent down right stupid, they just had no direction in life, he done a wonderful job turning them around, think a few still work for him.

 

[Notch7]

I only deal/dealt with kids that the schools couldn’t handle. All were 1:1 tutor/pupil students and some were 2:1 pupils.

I can’t say I had a 100% success rate with them but I would put it at 80% upwards. This is one of my proudest leaving presents I got from one of them.

Giving people a purpose makes them included in society and a sense of worth

1:1 teaching must be very expensive....but every teenager stopped from a life of crime is worth a huge amount.

Is this a scheme created by your local authority? -it sounds exactly what is needed to help reduce poverty and crime.

How many of your students end up as mechanics?

 

[noseall]

Do you ever take your ski glasses off?

Eh?

 

[Mottie]

Giving people a purpose makes them included in society and a sense of worth

1:1 teaching must be very expensive....but every teenager stopped from a life of crime is worth a huge amount.

Is this a scheme created by your local authority? -it sounds exactly what is needed to help reduce poverty and crime.

How many of your students end up as mechanics?

The private SEN schools that send these students to me get between £80 and £110k per student per academic year from the local authority that the child is in care with and that’s just the educational part of it - care home costs are on top of that. I think mainstream schools get about £7k per year per pupil or at least they used to. A few have gone in to be mechanics but most go on to college/FE.
Most of them are in care homes or are fostered out. The biggest problem between them finding the right path and the wrong one is other kids using them to pedal drugs and get the easy money. Unfortunately with no permanent adult role models in their life, the drug dealer fills that position. It really does make a difference at what age they are put on a programme.

 

[Deleted member 267285]

Are you a school teacher?

No, a gas engineer. I meant from when I was in school.

 

[Notch7]

The private SEN schools that send these students to me get between £80 and £110k per student per academic year from the local authority that the child is in care with and that’s just the educational part of it - care home costs are on top of that. I think mainstream schools get about £7k per year per pupil or at least they used to. A few have gone in to be mechanics but most go on to college/FE.
Most of them are in care homes or are fostered out. The biggest problem between them finding the right path and the wrong one is other kids using them to pedal drugs and get the easy money. Unfortunately with no permanent adult role models in their life, the drug dealer fills that position. It really does make a difference at what age they are put on a programme.

that’s really interesting, thanks for that insight.

Unfortunately there is a lot of attraction to drugs.

I used to employ a wood machinist whose brother was a drug dealer….this going back 20 years now, his brother worked full time, earning about £300 a week and selling cocaine earnt him £700 a week.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

We worked for a lady teacher and she said most of some of her lessons were taken up by getting children to sit down or stop playing up

imo all lessons should be recorded on camera

and the parents of these children can than see how there children are behaving

But would the parents even care?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

No, a gas engineer. I meant from when I was in school.

When I was at school and you dared to step out of line, the rest of the class was on your back, as well as the teacher.

 

[Vinty]

that’s really interesting, thanks for that insight.

Unfortunately there is a lot of attraction to drugs.

I used to employ a wood machinist whose brother was a drug dealer….this going back 20 years now, his brother worked full time, earning about £300 a week and selling cocaine earnt him £700 a week.

Drug deaths in Scotland are 3.5 times the national average.
Drug dealers are scum.
Although having said that, i suppose having to live in Scotland under wee Nicola Krankie and her regime would drive anyone to drink and drugs.