Why is there no plan?

[AngleEyes]

Ask him

I'm sure he's capable of responding if he wishes to.

 

[AngleEyes]

You me like you do.

I've tried my best to make sense of that sentence, but it's got me beat.

Claiming no economic Migrants risk their lifes crossing the channel.. ...

You're getting yourself all confused again.
Refugees escape war, poverty, persecution, etc. They even resort to extremely risky journeys to escape with their life.
Refugees can't work.

Economic migrants migrate for work and better standards of living. They don't willingly make perilous journeys to achieve their dream. But unfortunately some people smugglers are carless with their 'cargo' and accidents happen. Economic migrants work for lower wages because they can be taken advantage of, but they cannot complain, they cannot register for health, education, housing etc.

Channel crossings made by economic migrants pretending to be refugees should be appropriately identified and returned to their country of origin, (if the government system worked!)

Are you still fed up ?

You're still confused.

 

[ellal]

Not at all. What you have done in your own inimitable way is to swerve the question again. I'll give you one more chance to swerve. The 'excuses' you gave for not leaving the UK no longer apply. Covid restictions are coming to an end and school's out for medic number three so, why you still here?

You really are as thick as you claim to be...

I no longer have the right to live indefinately/work/claim healthcare in my partners country...

In short I am simply a 'tourist' there (and in all of the EU/EEA), but then you chose that for me...

The facts of course won't be good enough for you...

But hey, how about telling us if you would take in Ukranian refugees?

Yes or no!

That is after all what this topic is about!

 

[securespark]

Not at all. What you have done in your own inimitable way is to swerve the question again. I'll give you one more chance to swerve. The 'excuses' you gave for not leaving the UK no longer apply. Covid restictions are coming to an end and school's out for medic number three so, why you still here?

Doesn't your lottie need attention?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

I've tried my best to make sense of that sentence, but it's got me beat.


You're getting yourself all confused again.
Refugees escape war, poverty, persecution, etc. They even resort to extremely risky journeys to escape with their life.
Refugees can't work.

Economic migrants migrate for work and better standards of living. They don't willingly make perilous journeys to achieve their dream. But unfortunately some people smugglers are carless with their 'cargo' and accidents happen. Economic migrants work for lower wages because they can be taken advantage of, but they cannot complain, they cannot register for health, education, housing etc.

Channel crossings made by economic migrants pretending to be refugees should be appropriately identified and returned to their country of origin, (if the government system worked!)




You're still confused.

I think we are all getting confused

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Refugees escape war, poverty, persecution, etc. They even resort to extremely risky journeys to escape with their life.
Refugees can't work.

Economic migrants migrate for work and better standards of living. They don't willingly make perilous journeys to achieve their dream. But unfortunately some people smugglers are carless with their 'cargo' and accidents happen. Economic migrants work for lower wages because they can be taken advantage of, but they cannot complain, they cannot register for health, education, housing etc.

Try processing that conundrum... and you wonder why we don't just open the doors...

 

[Mottie]

But hey, how about telling us if you would take in Ukranian refugees?

As for taking in a Ukrainian refugee....I simply don't know yet, I'd need to know all the practicalities first.

 

[Mottie]

You appear to be confusing ellal with Bodd.

No, ellal. The one who desperately wants to take in a Ukrainian family. Perhaps you can show me ellals posts where he is willing to take in any other nations refugees. Of course, the only reason ellal is saying it is to labour a point that they are not being allowed in yet. The whole point of ellals virtue signal post was purely to knock the UK government and say how wonderful the EU's governments are.

 

[AngleEyes]

I think we are all getting confused

No. I'm not confused.

 

[AngleEyes]

Try processing that conundrum... and you wonder why we don't just open the doors...

It's not a conundrum. It was an explanation, for you, to clear up any confusion you appear to be having differentiating between refugees, economic migrants and illegal immigrants.
I'll repeat the explanation again for you.

Refugees escape war, poverty, persecution, etc. They even resort to extremely risky journeys to escape with their life.
Refugees can't work.

Economic migrants migrate for work and better standards of living. They don't willingly make perilous journeys to achieve their dream. But unfortunately some people smugglers are carless with their 'cargo' and accidents happen. Economic migrants work for lower wages because they can be taken advantage of, but they cannot complain, they cannot register for health, education, housing etc.

Channel crossings made by economic migrants pretending to be refugees should be appropriately identified and returned to their country of origin, (if the government system worked!)

 

[AngleEyes]

No, ellal. The one who desperately wants to take in a Ukrainian family. Perhaps you can show me ellals posts where he is willing to take in any other nations refugees. Of course, the only reason ellal is saying it is to labour a point that they are not being allowed in yet. The whole point of ellals virtue signal post was purely to knock the UK government and say how wonderful the EU's governments are.

Ellal has not made any differentiation between any refugees. He has consistently displayed a humanitarian approach to all refugees. Whereas Bodd has made an obvious differentiation, not only to specific refugees depending on their origin, he apparently appears to be (slightly) hospitable towards Ukrainian refugees but would draw the line at any other refugees. He has also confused and conflated refugees with economic migrants and illegal immigrants.

but you know what's going to happen....don't you.... once they do open the door you Notch and the others will harp on about letting the draw bridge down to the middle east and Africa.

But I understand how you will paint another poster in as bad a light as you can manage. I'm familiar with you vindictiveness. For you, it's all about who said anything, rather than the 'what' was said.

 

[transam]

No, ellal. The one who desperately wants to take in a Ukrainian family. Perhaps you can show me ellals posts where he is willing to take in any other nations refugees. Of course, the only reason ellal is saying it is to labour a point that they are not being allowed in yet. The whole point of ellals virtue signal post was purely to knock the UK government and say how wonderful the EU's governments are.

exactly

he or she (?) won’t be taking in any refugees

all ***s and wind

 

[AngleEyes]

exactly

he or she (?) won’t be taking in any refugees

all ***s and wind

It's irrelevant, they're not being allowed to depart from Calais.

Ukraine: Refugees to UK turned back at Calais over paperwork
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60659786
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They'll have to catch a ride in the next dinghy.

 

[empip]

Only if they have the equivalent of an HGV licence.
"...I've got a ticket to ride..."
-0-

 

[ellal]

Did you miss the boat by dilly dallying and generally fannying around or were you just not wanted?

Hmm..

As for taking in a Ukrainian refugee....I simply don't know yet, I'd need to know all the practicalities first.

Sounds like 'dilly dallying and generally fannying around' to me...

Let's make it a bit simpler for you.
(since simple is the way you need it)

If it becomes practical (in other words when the home office gets its collective head out of it's collective arse), would you be willing to receive and put up Ukranian refugees in your property?

Yes or no!