Winter fuel allowance

[ReganAndCarter]

You are obsessed with Mick and Elton.

Seen Stones live couple of times, that's about as far as my obsession goes. Elton is great too. Sorry to hear that they'll both be getting hypothermia this year, fightened to switch on their two bar fires.

At least Elton still has his candle, but it's just Jumping Jack without the gas for poor Mick.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Denso try this then. You don't care.

I've cooked five meals since Christmas - now I'm going to be freezing

Widower Elaine Yates from Irchester, Northants, has slammed Labour's 'cruel' plan to axe winter fuel payments, saying she already can't afford to use her oven to cook.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That's a bigger issue than the wfa though

 

[carmanmemoranda]

yes, you're absolutely right, migrants in warm cosy hotels, our old people who have worked hard all their lives paying into our country shivering away in their houses.

Why don't they ask the migrants to spend one night a week hotel-less and use this massive saving to fund winter fuel payments for our elderly.

Blame the Tories for not dealing with the past issues, not those having to address them

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yup but they are overpaid before their rise

The driver I know is extremely comfortable and his misses cuts hair cash only so no tax or ni there either

2 different issues conflated to try and make a point and failing.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Elaine has been moaning about different things for years, all Tory issues. She'll get the help she needs.

Do you genuinely believe that, you are really not convincing me?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yes. But I suspect many people would agree.

Especially OAP’s just above the threshold for benefits

Which confirms those that really need it will STILL get it. It's not being taken away from them no matter how much you try and infer it will be

There are always some that get caught by just being above the cutoff. Have they applied for other help ? Lots of people willing to help them apply if their own families won't.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Why did the tories blow £billions on corrupt and useless PPE 'contracts', of which almost all (£10bn and climbing) has been written off?

And that's just the tip of the ridiculous 'virus' spending iceberg!

Winter fuel payments cost just over £2bn...

And if that money hadn't been wasted more pensioners could have had more.

But let's ignore facts and spend money we haven't got

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Totally agree, there should be massive investment in our housing stock -

Blame Labour for that too

 

[denso13]

Do you genuinely believe that, you are really not convincing me?

I really hope so, I don't think anyone can guarantee there won't be issues though.

She said on TV that she isn't eligible for pension credit because she gets her husbands private pension as well as her own.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I'm sure you can see the point I'm making. Millionaires don't need £4 a week tax payer handouts.

Effectively, they do not get the £4. They get the £4 in one hand, then have thousands taken back in taxes. Only a fool would suggest otherwise.

 

[denso13]

Only a fool would suggest otherwise.

Do you actually support giving millionaires a £200 hand out?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Totally agree, there should be massive investment in our housing stock -

Which where the RTB, was worthwhile - people bought under RTB, then it was worth their while to invest in their homes - I did, as did the many locally. Nobody with any sense, invests in a home, which will never be their own.

 

[noseall]

However, plenty of morons liked the last shower's wheeze of stealing from most of us, to give to themselves and their chums

Short memories thick right wingers. You'll see them cheering on Mone and all the other wealthy chums, mugging the UK.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Do you actually support giving millionaires a £200 hand out?

I don't support it, no, but as has been explained to you numerous times, the millionaires are heavily taxed. They effectively don't get to keep the hand out, so your argument, is the usual nonsense rant.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Which where the RTB, was worthwhile - people bought under RTB, then it was worth their while to invest in their homes - I did, as did the many locally. Nobody with any sense, invests in a home, which will never be their own.

So anybody that bought via rtb and has had a massive increase in value of their asset should automatically get wfa without previous massive handouts (way more than £4 week) being taken into account?