Winter fuel allowance

[mitch66]

Earlier this week it emerged Labour's own research from 2017 found cutting the winter fuel allowance would increase excess deaths by 3,850 that ...

The decision is based on pension increases of late and fuel prices this year compared with last year.

Have fuel prices gone down since last year? I thought they'd crept up a bit more. Surely more than 2017 when Labour made that prediction.

 

[denso13]

Nearer 1m or 1.5m tops,

"Since the introduction the policy in 1980-1, almost two million social homes have been lost from the social housing stock through RTB."

https://www.local.gov.uk/parliament/briefings-and-responses/debate-future-social-housing-house-commons-19-april-2023

I'm not really getting too hung up on the numbers, we could have done a better job at replacing those lost.

Not enough, granted, but you're claiming no social housing has been built since 1979.

I didn't claim that, if you think I did then I was wrong.

 

[Trazor]

Forcing them out of their houses you mean ?

No voluntary only, perhaps a bit impractical.

How about creating mini libraries in some Hotel lounges where pensioners could go, stay warm and meet the like minded.

 

[denso13]

Reasons for Decision:

There have been two unsuccessful procurement exercises undertaken to appoint a third party contractor. The service must be brought in house to ensure the continuity of the servicing and maintenance of all properties.

My point is they generally take a slightly/completely different approach to repairs.

 

[denso13]

How about creating mini libraries in some Hotel lounges where pensioners could go, stay warm and meet the like minded.

Great idea, push your MP.

 

[Trazor]

Great idea, push your MP.

Why do you say that, when you say all pensioners will have the funds, where needed, to stay warm.

 

[mitch66]

That is of course correct. But a Council/HA with a lot more homes before RTB had a bigger asset base and more scope to invest.

I'm not anti RTB, maybe the discounts were too big, but if Councils/HAs could have replaced a good number of those lost it would have helped.

*Disclaimer: I know the number of properties, overall across the UK, stay roughly the same.*

I'd never considered the assets to borrow against. Would never of thought of that.
I always thought RTB had a lot of positives but I totally agree with you, not reinvesting the dough in more properties was a disaster.
I genuinely hope Labour do what they said and get building. It's the only solution to many issues. Tories promised it and did zero. Change is needed

 

[denso13]

Why do you say that, when you say all pensioners will have the funds, where needed, to stay warm.

I was playing along with your silliness. FWIW I think labour could have handled it better, maybe they'll come up with a more tiered approach, I don't know. I still don't think we should be giving people hand outs they obviously don't need though.

 

[Brigadier]

Why do you say that, when you say all pensioners will have the funds, where needed, to stay warm.

Apart from the fact that you're lying - again - why get so angsty about someone supporting your suggestion?

 

[fillyboy]

I can see how and why your appreciation count is so high.

I can see how and why your appreciation count is so low.

 

[Trazor]

Apart from the fact that you're lying - again -

Where did that piece of nonsense come from ???

 

[denso13]

Where did that piece of nonsense come from ???

Because of this, I think.

when you say all pensioners will have the funds, where needed, to stay warm

 

[Trazor]

Because of this, I think.

You have lost me, off to bed, goodnight.

 

[JohnD]

Forget Brexit, that ship has sailed

You are forgetting that the anti-Europeans spent more than 40 years moaning.

The rest of us have no reason to capitulate to you.

 

[JohnD]

about the same as housing a migrant in a nice hotel for one day.

For some reason munroast seems to have no idea what the daily rate in a budget hotel is

Nor the discounts available to a long-term block booking contract.

Is he stupid?

Or just pretending?

Or both?