Zion and the Art of Armageddon

Maybe if hamas had released the hostages we wouldn't be where we are today? their deaths, and the gaza civilians are on hamas not Israel, maybe what Israel is doing will make them think hard before carrying out similar atrocities against them? we must all agree you can't give in to terrorists demands (y)
Maybe if israel released the thousands of palestinian hostages they hold, then israel might think better about the violence that they are perpetuating...

There are terrorists on both sides...

It matters not whether it is guns or indiscriminate missiles that cause death, it is death by terror!
 
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Maybe if hamas had released the hostages we wouldn't be where we are today
Israel holds captive thousands of Palestinians, arrested without charge and imprisoned without trial. Always has done. This is not new.

Some of them are sexually abused, others are tortured, other killed in the most revolting ways.

Surgery is carried out without anaesthetic.

Prisoners are chained to a bed without access to toilets.

Manacles are so tight that gangrene sets in and limbs are amputated.

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Not content with murdering as many Palestinians as possible before America makes them stop it transpires the hostages aren't safe from their own forces as the Israeli army is investigating the deaths of the six captives whose bodies were retrieved on Tuesday after a report by the Israeli news website Ynet alleged that some of the deaths were caused by an Israeli operation in Khan Younis six months ago. According to the report, the captives may have died from suffocation after the army hit a nearby target, causing the tunnel in which they were held to be flooded with carbon dioxide. They were, ironically, being kept in a designated 'safe zone'.

The Hostages Families Forum, an organisation that represents many families of the captives, renewed its call for the government to agree to a ceasefire with Hamas. “The direct and full responsibility for the fate of the negotiations rests with the prime minister. The incessant attempts to criticise the negotiation teams, to blame the mediators, the media, the families of the abductees and the abductees themselves – all of these are throwing sand in the eyes,” the group said on X on Wednesday, adding “The prime minister is responsible.”
 
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Interesting discussion here.

 
Interesting discussion here.

He makes a good point about the Jewish people "thinking they're better than everybody else" - When God says you're 'His chosen people', it does give that impression.
 
I think it was more significant that the pro-genocide speaker attempted to throw in some false stories circulated by the Israeli forces, as if he expected to get away with it.
 
I think it was more significant that the pro-genocide speaker attempted to throw in some false stories circulated by the Israeli forces, as if he expected to get away with it.
The tales of atrocities were debunked months ago but still they try to maintain the fiction; as though it excuses Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank since Oct. 7th.
 
More pressure piling up for Netanyahu as Fitch Ratings downgraded Israel’s credit score from A+ to A. Fitch cited the continued war in Gaza and heightened geopolitical risks as key drivers. The agency also kept Israel’s outlook as “negative”, meaning a further downgrade is possible.

So far, Israel’s war on Gaza has killed more than 40,000 Palestinians and decimated the economy in the besieged Palestinian enclave. There are signs of a blowback in Israel, too, where consumption, trade and investment have all been curtailed. Separately, Fitch warned that heightened tensions between Israel and Iran could incur “significant additional military spending” for Israel. The Bank of Israel has estimated that war-related costs for 2023-2025 could amount to $55.6bn. These funds will likely be secured through a combination of higher borrowing and budget cuts.
The upshot is that combat operations are putting a strain on the economy. On Sunday, Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics estimated that output grew by 2.5 percent (at an annual rate) in the first half of 2024, down from 4.5 percent in the same period last year.

According to the business survey company CofaceBDI, roughly 60,000 Israeli companies will close this year due to manpower shortages, logistics disruptions and subdued business sentiment. Investment plans have, in turn, been delayed. Meanwhile, the war has triggered a steep rise in government spending. According to Elliot Garside, a Middle East analyst at Oxford Economics, there was a 93 percent increase in military expenditure in the last three months of 2023, compared to the same period in 2022. “In 2024, monthly data suggests military expenditure will be around double the previous year,” Garside said. Much of that increase will be used on reservist wages, artillery, and interceptors for Israel’s Iron Dome defence system. Absent a full-scale regional war, Oxford Economics anticipates that Israel’s economy will slow to 1.5 percent growth this year. Subdued growth and elevated deficits will put further pressure on Israel’s debt profile, which will likely raise borrowing costs and soften investor confidence.

Al Jazeera

War is Hel...and very, very expensive.
 
Keir Starmer’s most senior legal adviser has intervened in the contentious decision over whether to ban UK arms sales to Israel, the Guardian has learned, as officials struggle to distinguish between “offensive” and “defensive” weapons. Sources say Richard Hermer, the attorney general, has told Foreign Office officials he will not approve a decision to ban some weapons sales but allow others, until they can say for sure which could be used to break international humanitarian law.

David Lammy has launched a review into whether the UK should continue selling weapons to Israel as the country continues its assault on Gaza. The foreign secretary has talked about banning the sale of “offensive” weapons but allowing arms manufacturers to keep supplying “defensive” ones, saying that such a move would enable Israel to defend itself. Officials are keen to avoid a repeat of 2019, when the court of appeal ruled that British arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful and that ministers had not given due consideration to whether they had been used to break human rights law in Yemen.

Despite this, the delay to the review has caused upset in some parts of the British government. Earlier this month a British diplomat in Dublin quit his job because ministers had not yet banned weapons sales to Israel. Mark Smith told the BBC he believed Israel was “perpetrating war crimes in plain sight”.
 
How many Zionists does it take to replace a light bulb?

Four:

One to stay home and convince others to do it...

a second to donate the bulb...

a third to screw it in...


and a fourth to proclaim that the entire Jewish people stands behind their actions.
 
I seems another hospital area is under orders to be evacuated. Staff losses as some live in the area and some saying they will carry on as hospitals are protected by law.

The peace deal. It appears to include Israel taking control of the S end of the strip and also the "road" they have added that cuts the strip into 2 sections. Mention of this being used to control movement from the S to the N. Rather than end it sounds like more to do as far as Gazans and IDF involvement are concerned.

US intervention? I wonder if that will even happen in an effective fashion. Wider scale war? Well as expected Israel is using fighters and bombs on Lebanon. Seems they could use them at any distance over the border if they want. Ground war? Really?
 
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