At least the Tories aimed for higher backhanders than a pair of specs and some new strides.

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I never said anything of the sort.

So you think Starmer bats for the other side do you?
So what if he did.
Do you judge someone by their sexuality?
Many Conservative MPs were gay.
During Edward Heath’s 51 years in Parliament, from 1950 to 2001, no Conservative MP ventured to admit being gay, though many were. The first to come out voluntarily was Sir Alan Duncan, in 2002. Others married, for self-protection.

And many current MPs, male and female, are openly gay.

I thought homophobia was a thing of the distant past. :rolleyes:
 
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Labour is the gift that just keeps giving

I mean after all their promises they are failing virtually every day

14 years of opposition taught them nothing.
Compared to the Tories they are doing well so far.

Look at how many they've upset, change is a good thing.

If and when they get to the standards of Boris and those that followed him it will be time to vote them out. We're not there yet. They're still better than the Tory choice.
 
Compared to the Tories they are doing well so far.

Look at how many they've upset, change is a good thing.

If and when they get to the standards of Boris and those that followed him it will be time to vote them out. We're not there yet. They're still better than the Tory choice.

Give them time

And they said they were whiter than white - which is clearly not the case
 
Because Notch and Mrs 10 names are the same person
I make the same mistake with the hard right posters, they spout similar stuff from similar sources, Its tempting to think some might even be the same, particularly when no post new users hit the ground running. But notchy and eleven names are chalk and cheese imo
 
They all got there snouts in the trough one way or another

Looks like starmers honey moon period did not last long ???

Wait for the budget when he clamps down on benefits ;) They are going after any one on a sick note
Makes political sense to deal with the un popular policies first
The bribes will come in the election year ;)


Mind you he is likely to save some money as he deals with this migrant caper :giggle:
 
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