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[motorbiking]

So you want to pay them as little as possible. Whether it's enough to live on , or not.

You actively support lower wages.

You'll be able to quote me then.

or are you redefining the word exactly, as well as profit, margin, costs and overheads.

so that will be a no then. A new definition of exactly it is then.

Exactly = something completely different according to Carman. No wonder some of the jobs he hand picks aren't profitable.

 

[motorbiking]

People trapped in rent on low wages can’t develop more skills

which is why they need a bit of help.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

That was the last lot; good to see that you still hold them accountable

But Labour are supposed to be above all that.

 

[denso13]

But Labour are supposed to be above all that.

So far, so good, keep the faith comrade...

 

[JohnD]

But Labour are supposed to be above all that.

Not as crooked as Johnson, you mean?

Even Tories ought to be better than that.

Not Bra Baronesses, obviously.

 

[JohnD]

You made my point perfectly.

It took 30 mins to get around Reeves’ tax grab. One teams call and everyone said - yes.

I look forward to you stopping your whining.

 

[ajohn]

to a point... until you realise we compete on a global scale.

So do nothing? The global aspect can not be avoided. All that can be done overall is to look at similar countries and compare us with how they are doing and then look for solutions to boost our productivity. In real terms that needs many billions of investment in more productive jobs in the UK.

Starmer's £64b sounds a lot but as a % of GDP it isn't. Better than 0 though.

 

[motorbiking]

Not as crooked as Johnson, you mean?

Even Tories ought to be better than that.

Not Bra Baronesses, obviously.

or Punchy Mike, Racist Dawn, Free Gear Kier, "economist" Rachel

 

[aveatry]

Without a vaccine, the govt had no choice but to try and dampen infection rates.

Sadly the govt made the major error of not locking down soon enough, so had to keep things in place longer

Non pharmaceutical interventions were the only option available at the time


Other countries like South Korea made extensive use of test and trace to limit infection spread.

U.K. had a govt which put greed first, so it waited for private labs to be test up to do testing despite NHS lab network being available.

You see you can reply to posts in a civilised manner without fffing and jeffing

 

[motorbiking]

Without a vaccine, the govt had no choice but to try and dampen infection rates.

Sadly the govt made the major error of not locking down soon enough, so had to keep things in place longer

Non pharmaceutical interventions were the only option available at the time


Other countries like South Korea made extensive use of test and trace to limit infection spread.

U.K. had a govt which put greed first, so it waited for private labs to be test up to do testing despite NHS lab network being available.

The UKs vaccine strategy was ballsy. probably saved 500,000 lives. I actually think (with the benefit of hindsight) that the lock down strategy was wrong. As we now know, we could have applied restrictions based on risk demographic. The vast majority of under 40s could have kept away from the over 60s and there was no need to keep kids away from schools for so long.

 

[Brigadier]

you tell me my position, I tell you its not my position and you tell me I'm swerving.

Your ignoring of my question was the swerve.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

so that will be a no then. A new definition of exactly it is then.

Exactly = something completely different according to Carman. No wonder some of the jobs he hand picks aren't profitable.

You really don't understand my business but you can tell me all about it. Just blowing hot air, and to think some people listen to you.

I've had various people like you telling me how to run my business better. Every single 1 of them has been sent packing.

I would hazard a guess that nearly every self employed trader has had jobs that, for various reasons, don't return a profit. I am really surprised you don't know that.

But you swerve away from keeping wanting wages to be low. It's exactly what you want.

 

[motorbiking]

No I want people to have the skills to bring more value to their employer/customer so that they can earn more and pay a bigger share of tax.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No I want people to have the skills to bring more value to their employer/customer so that they can earn more and pay a bigger share of tax.

And who does the little jobs? They still need doing.

Why do you keep pretending they are not essential and can be upskilled.

 

[motorbiking]

You have such a 2D way of thinking.

Demand: The first thing you need to look at is if there is demand for better skilled workers and if those roles pay more. yes there is.
Supply: You then need to look at how many in work families are in poverty. The number has fallen according to some data from 2017/18 to 22/23, but I suspect, many given the right help would want to earn more and be more valuable.
Potential: You then look to see if you can elevate some of those people in the supply group to meet the demand group. What training do they need etc. let's assume we can take 20% of the 20% and move them from minimum wage to avg wage. That is more than the money raised taxing private schools or private jets.

For "essential" work that is low paid, you have to ask why is it low paid? is it a low skill job with 100s of candidates willing to do the work?
In which case, how's that going to work with a 20% reduction in available workforce. The employer is then forced to pay more and/or innovate to improve productivity.