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[JonathanM]

No I dont, I vote but for parties that going to lose. Though why did tories smash the budget, oh yeah 149 billion deficit.

Some argue that austerity was a political choice which has led to low growth. Although the deficit was obviously high, that was due to a one off event (the GFC) and it could have been managed without such drastic cuts, as other crises have been in the past.

Paul Krugman, a Nobel Prize winning economist, wrote this article in 2015.

Meanwhile, all of the economic research that allegedly supported the austerity push has been discredited. Widely touted statistical results were, it turned out, based on highly dubious assumptions and procedures – plus a few outright mistakes – and evaporated under closer scrutiny.

It is rare, in the history of economic thought, for debates to get resolved this decisively. The austerian ideology that dominated elite discourse five years ago has collapsed, to the point where hardly anyone still believes it. Hardly anyone, that is, except the coalition that still rules Britain – and most of the British media.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/ng-interactive/2015/apr/29/the-austerity-delusion

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

never said he wasn't part of the problem,
but Lib Dems and Tories inherited 149 billion deficit
and he complaining about 30 billion
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Machete killer to be released after SIX MONTHS due to overcrowding

Gordon Gault (pictured), 14, died in hospital six days after he was attacked with a blade during an ongoing feud in Elswick, Newcastle, in November 2022.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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I'm not sure what you are trying to say with this post.
But if it's in some way your presentation of evidence of two-tier policing, it's invalid

Policing s about preventing, detecting, investigating and capturing crimes and criminals.
The judges and courts are the ones that decide the penalty for the crimes and the criminals.

You can't conflate the police with the Justice System, and argue there is two-tier policing.

But your presented articles have nothing to do with your argument about the finances of the UK.
You appear to be all over the place with your arguments.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

true, but that's next campaign

I suggest you restart your argument in ten years.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Two he has been undermined by the riots, and his government response.

Who would you prefer to have as PM, just now?
Sir Keir who has extensive experience in the justice system
BJ, who is a proven liar
Sunak, who hasn't the confidence to sack wayward ministers
Liz Truss, who would cut interest rates
TM, who would restart the 'hostile environment' campaign.

Make your choice from the recent PMs.

Farage is not in the running.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

The facts. You are complaining about the sentencing without knowing why it was given. That's a fail.

He's also introduced it into a claim that there is two-tier policing. The police do not sentence the criminals, so his argument fails.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Has Gollum joined the forum?

Give him a ring, and ask him, my precious.

Boom, boom.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

low growth is growth still, which better than negative growth, with a larger deficit funding thing we could not afford.

Who was in power for 14 years?

But you keep saying Tories had it worse.

You're getting the justice system mixed up with the economy. The only bit that is relevant is police, prisons and prison spaces. And you blame Kier for that?

 

[adlplumbing]

Some argue that austerity was a political choice which has led to low growth. Although the deficit was obviously high, that was due to a one off event (the GFC) and it could have been managed without such drastic cuts, as other crises have been in the past.

Paul Krugman, a Nobel Prize winning economist, wrote this article in 2015.



https://www.theguardian.com/business/ng-interactive/2015/apr/29/the-austerity-delusion

Yeah poltical choice to burden my gran children, with multiple bad choices from Gordon Brown and the Labour Party.
That wasn't a one of thing, it was multiple.
Like selling gold cheap
Like pfi which still burdens the NHS
Also lots of other examples
Like privatising a NHS trust

 

[adlplumbing]

Who would you prefer to have as PM, just now?
Sir Keir who has extensive experience in the justice system
BJ, who is a proven liar
Sunak, who hasn't the confidence to sack wayward ministers
Liz Truss, who would cut interest rates
TM, who would restart the 'hostile environment' campaign.

Make your choice from the recent PMs.

Farage is not in the running.

Proven in our justice system that let's rapists off, hmmm.

 

[adlplumbing]

Who was in power for 14 years?

But you keep saying Tories had it worse.

You're getting the justice system mixed up with the economy. The only bit that is relevant is police, prisons and prison spaces. And you blame Kier for that?

Still sorting out labour's mess

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Still sorting out labour's mess

After 14 years.

Ok, did it get better, or worse ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Proven in our justice system that let's rapists off, hmmm.

Who was in power for last 14 years, and you blame Kier? Ok

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Proven in our justice system that let's rapists off, hmmm.

Your comment doesn't make sense. I asked you a question as to which PM you would prefer.
And your response is shown above.

 

[JonathanM]

Yeah poltical choice to burden my gran children, with multiple bad choices from Gordon Brown and the Labour Party.
That wasn't a one of thing, it was multiple.
Like selling gold cheap
Like pfi which still burdens the NHS
Also lots of other examples
Like privatising a NHS trust

I think what Paul Krugman is talking about was that those on the right made a theoretical argument for austerity. I can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something like, if an economy reaches a certain level of debt or budget deficit then this stops it growing. And he's saying that all those theories were quickly proven to be wrong. But what did happen was that the massive slashing of public investment has left us with long term low growth.

 

[algas]

Bring back the rope !