EV are they worth it?

[flameport]

To charge a battery, certain amount of energy is lost (50%, 75%?).

5% loss is more typical.

. The energy is lost as heat and causing global warming.

All other replies are cancelled, as you lack the cognitive ability to understand them.

 

[Avocet]

You truly have no clue. To charge a battery, certain amount of energy is lost (50%, 75%?). Batteries are bad for the the environment. The energy is lost as heat and causing global warming.

...or about 3-5% if you watch the app I've got that actually tells you while it's doing it...

 

[DiyNutJob]

 

[Avocet]

Ah... every inch the "expert" there... Did you notice how the title of the video contained the word "proof", but the video itself contained not one shred of evidence? It was a series of claims, that's all. Not one of them backed up with any figures. Is that what passes for "proof" in your world?

Of course, there is a small grain of truth in some of his claims, but if he bothered to do the sums, he'd soon realise that even with America's spectacularly backward electricity generation carbon emissions, EVs are still a better bet overall. By the time you get to the UK's electricity generation, the difference is far greater. By the time you get to places like Norway, it's an absolute no-brainer.

Anyway, if all you need for "proof", is a YouTube video, then here''s another American chap on YouTube with "proof" that they don't pollute more than ICE vehicles...

Your serve...

 

[DiyNutJob]

The other american chap has lower subscriber numbers, therefore less credible, less people agree with him.

 

[norseman]

By the time you get to the UK's electricity generation, the difference is far greater. By the time you get to places like Norway, it's an absolute no-brainer.

Sadly I haven't been to Norway since the mid 'nineties when several of us toured with vintage vehicles & self-catered, but back then electricity was cheap as most of it was generated by Hydro plants.

Don't know if that's still the case as I've lost contact with friends out there.

 

[Avocet]

The other american chap has lower subscriber numbers, therefore less credible, less people agree with him.

Every now and then, I wonder how the hell we ended up with populist political policies, and then I suddenly get reminded...

 

[norseman]

I don't have a pacemaker. If I did, I would want a plug-in one.

You'd need a b...y long lead, unless you stayed at home

nb. I'll make this my only contribution to this thread, as like the proverbial 'show' it will go on & on & ..

 

[Avocet]

Sadly I haven't been to Norway since the mid 'nineties when several of us toured with vintage vehicles & self-catered, but back then electricity was cheap as most of it was generated by Hydro plants.

Don't know if that's still the case as I've lost contact with friends out there.

Yes, it's spectacularly good. Of course, they have the terrain for it, and only a couple of dozen people to actually use the electricity!

CO2 emissions per kWh in Norway - Nowtricity

Electricity CO2 emissions per kWh in Norway. Current production by electricity source and average emissions by month and year.

www.nowtricity.com

Mind you, ours isn't that bad, overall, by world standards. It's bad (by UK standards) right now, as there's very little wind across the country, but even as it is, it's much better than the USA average.

Carbon intensity dashboard | ESO

As the UK closes in on its legally-binding 2050 emissions reduction targets, it’ll be more important than ever to understand how green our electricity is and the impact of any action we, as GB’s Electricity System Operator, take to keep electricity flowing. We’ve created a dashboard that shows...

www.nationalgrideso.com

 

[robinbanks]

The other american chap has lower subscriber numbers, therefore less credible, less people agree with him.

Fewer people

Less is for things you measure, like credibility or beer. Fewer is for things you count, like people or hangovers

Examples:

"If you drank less beer, you'd have fewer hangovers"

"If you spouted less crap, you'd have fewer replies pointing out you're a crapspout"

 

[DiyNutJob]

Fewer people

Less is for things you measure, like credibility or beer. Fewer is for things you count, like people or hangovers

Examples:

"If you drank less beer, you'd have fewer hangovers"

"If you spouted less crap, you'd have fewer replies pointing out you're a crapspout"

I once worked with a stupid woman at ford. She was useless for anything but spell checking in meetings. You must be from her school. Where can the word "lower" be used then?

 

[mointainwalker]

I once worked with a stupid woman at ford. She was useless for anything but spell checking in meetings. You must be from her school. Where can the word "lower" be used then?

Worked for Ford, but can't spell that either ?

 

[Mottie]

I once worked with a stupid woman at ford. She was useless for anything but spell checking in meetings. You must be from her school. Where can the word "lower" be used then?

Shouldn’t that be 'useless at everything' or 'no good for anything'?

 

[DiyNutJob]

Worked for Ford, but can't spell that either ?

Wasn't an employee. Let's not be too chummy.

 

[Avocet]

Fewer people

Less is for things you measure, like credibility or beer. Fewer is for things you count, like people or hangovers

Examples:

"If you drank less beer, you'd have fewer hangovers"

"If you spouted less crap, you'd have fewer replies pointing out you're a crapspout"