General Election 4th July
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You can't help but chuckle. A short while back, true blue Tories filly, mottie and the brexer crew, were getting a hard-on over scumbag Boris and his Brexit supermajority.
There was only ever going to be one outcome/backlash for the brexer fraud.
Probably start denying they were ever Tories in the first place, lol.
It all feels like smoke and mirrors, right now. Hard to see through the fug of waffle from all sides. I get the impression many of the 'red wall' voters are switching to Reform and wet Tories have gone into LibDem land, a safe haven for them whenever the right-right wing of the party gets uppish. It all depends how many have gone back to Labour after the Corbyn years and whether they can pick off any SNP seats in Scotland. Only three more weeks til all is revealed...thank the gods for footie, this summer.
Whereas the Tory voters are so faithful, their rabble need not even waste their time - or the paper - on a manifesto
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Reform +4 - Greens +1
There's something wrong with a world where people think immigration is more important than climate change.
There's something wrong with a world where people think immigration is more important than climate change.
Why? They don’t get excused tax on state education?
They had one of the pollsters on the box. She reckons that by targeting the LIbs might get 60 seats even with relatively low numbers in the usual polls. This sort of thing makes it difficult to predict seats that will be gained., They all usually target during campaigns. This touches on why the main polls don't always indicate the actual result.
Reform - well they are just providing a candidate for all seats. No doubt considering targetting as well. Immigration feelings in each might figure. Not sure how as they have thrown a couple out for racist views
they should throw Farage out for that. They ran a TV add last night. No sound warning, It just displayed Britain is broken, Britain needs Reform with a please help link for a while. Farage's latest but manifesto to come on the 17thThe party leader vowed to boost economic growth by increasing the income tax threshold from £12,570 to £20,000 at a press conference in London following Mr Farage’s surprise return to front-line politics.
Can't wait to see how they will pay for that. GDP growth due to income tax and similar is only part of the story. Then the BofE changes they mention. What they posted showed a net HMG gain and compared with £t's the amounts are hardly significant anyway. Brains baffled by bull sh it.
Residential public schools were around for the local rich and also for those that ran the empire. The local rich - the sort that would employ a nanny and other servants. More recently au pairs. The kids are less trouble is one sick way of looking at it. This continues until they finish education.
Another factor. Say a parent is not satisfied with the educational performance of a child. One solution is to have them crammed. it wont be a cheap option.
So these schools become vat registered. This also means they can cancel out vat they pay out but it still leaves a net gain for HMG as the service provided aspect is subject to vat.
The other sort of private school none residential. Prices vary but the same factors will apply. Costs likely to increase dramatically when the senior stage is reached. These often offer entrance exams - pass and it's free. Otherwise pay. Cramming services may be available in the junior period to help with the next stage.
My wife was privately educated up to the senior stage. She wanted the same for my son. Our mortgage was not much of a strain and she paid that. I paid for the education. The school was at the cheaper end. In pure educational aspects I'm not convinced it was that good but other areas creep in. Eg a report - your son is working on and improving his interpersonal skills. Bullying - doesn't really happen. Later blending in with a state school didn't really cause him much of a problem. One comment I remember is him telling me they called him prof - shortened professor. More mystified than anything else - why use nicknames. One report mentioned he had found someone to sit by and that way a small group of friends. The school thought the sit by person was an excellent choice. Similar drives etc.
My wife was privately educated up to the senior stage. She wanted the same for my son. Our mortgage was not much of a strain and she paid that. I paid for the education. The school was at the cheaper end. In pure educational aspects I'm not convinced it was that good but other areas creep in. Eg a report - your son is working on and improving his interpersonal skills. Bullying - doesn't really happen. Later blending in with a state school didn't really cause him much of a problem. One comment I remember is him telling me they called him prof - shortened professor. More mystified than anything else - why use nicknames. One report mentioned he had found someone to sit by and that way a small group of friends. The school thought the sit by person was an excellent choice. Similar drives etc.
That seems like a red herring. I don't have an intellectual answer for you, though. I just go with my gut on this. It feels wrong to me to give tax subsidies for people to give their children an advantage in life. And in particular, I don't see why luxury facilities should be subsidised.
Labour has no plans. Must admit links in the manifesto have to be followed for details.
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a number of links
BBC finally summarised Labour's budget aspects sensibly - it's cautious. That means more likely to gain what they expect. No rabbits out of the hat but changes to how things work in several areas. These aren't getting a mention. The media aren't used to this approach.
Kickstart economic growth – The Labour Party
A Labour government will deliver economic stability with tough spending rules, boost growth, build 1.5 million new homes and create jobs.
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BBC finally summarised Labour's budget aspects sensibly - it's cautious. That means more likely to gain what they expect. No rabbits out of the hat but changes to how things work in several areas. These aren't getting a mention. The media aren't used to this approach.
I am not sure what you mean by luxury facilities, anything educational or ancillary to the educational is not by definition a luxury. The appointment without accountability on very high salaries of principals and chief executives of school clusters needs sorting out first.
Luxuries would be things which state pupils could only dream of. Like swimming pools, squash courts, indoor tennis courts, etc. etc. etc.
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Private schools, whether you like them, or not are a business. Usually successful, and usually effective at their aim, but still a business.
Why should any business be vat exempt on services ?
Pay the vat, the schools will still be there.
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