General Election 4th July

[carmanmemoranda]

You really have no idea or you're pretending. Many hard working families and parents sacrifice alot to put their kids through private education it's nothing to do with the rich and elite per se. These are the ones that will suffer.

If the schools lose paying customers they will adapt.

 

[noseall]

These are the ones that will suffer.

Suffer? You mean all those people that have to tolerate state schools are suffering?

 

[blup]

Look at these poor people....

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LOL

 

[ellal]

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Yep, they hire the facilities out...

Education is a business

 

[blup]

Have you ever been to Eton?

Get real, FFS.

I walked down the road there on a trip to Windsor castle, the pupils at Slough Grammar were something else, arrogant and entitled is an understatement. private education is a little more than those elite establishments.

 

[blup]

Private schools, whether you like them, or not are a business. Usually successful, and usually effective at their aim, but still a business.

Why should any business be vat exempt on services ?

Pay the vat, the schools will still be there.

So are most charities who run their fund raising activities through a trading arm which don't pay tax iirc.

 

[blup]

Luxuries would be things which state pupils could only dream of. Like swimming pools, squash courts, indoor tennis courts, etc. etc. etc.

There are many private schools that don't have those facilities. But state schools are extremely under funded, the extra vat will make little or no difference.

 

[ajohn]

the extra vat will make little or no difference.

Did you look to see what Labour intend to do with it?

 

[JonathanM]

There are many private schools that don't have those facilities. But state schools are extremely under funded, the extra vat will make little or no difference.

I look at it differently. Times are tight. Every politician knows that, whether they acknowledge it publicly or not. £1.5bn is a start. Stealth wealth taxes like these might be the only politically palatable way to increase tax revenue these days. Chipping away, a bit here, a bit there, might bring in substantial extra taxes from the better off.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So are most charities who run their fund raising activities through a trading arm which don't pay tax iirc.

No reason not to charge vat.

Services are liable to vat generally. Schools aren't charities, they are a business

 

[carmanmemoranda]

There are many private schools that don't have those facilities. But state schools are extremely under funded, the extra vat will make little or no difference.

Better to have the vat in the coffers, than not.

No reason why vat shouldn't be imposed

 

[Mottie]

Maybe you could tell us which ones?

Are they academies, and do they hire them out?

Yep. My local academy is shared by Fitness First. It has plenty of facilities including a gym, swimming pool, badminton, static cycles etc. I use it.

 

[Mottie]

Look at these poor people....

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Now come on, you should know by now that JohnD has the copyright to that photo. At least I think he does, he's always posting it. Did you get his permission to use it?

 

[Odds]

YouGov’s recent MRP model suggests that if the election were held now, the SNP could lose 64.6 percent of the total seats it had in 2019, an even higher share than the dire 61.6 percent possible loss faced by the Conservatives. The MRP model suggests that 35 of Scotland’s 57 seats could change hands. This level of potential turnover is higher than that projected south of the border. Almost all of these seats are projected to go from the SNP to Labour and the vast majority are situated in Scotland’s urban central belt. [However] if the margin is less than five percent of vote share it is considered a “tossup” seat. Scotland has 22 such seats, almost 40 percent of the total seats up for grabs in the country.

All kinds of graphs and charts for the election nerd to enjoy @ Politico.com

 

[Brigadier]

BBC News - Major Tory donor tells BBC he is voting Labour

Tory donor John Caudwell tells the BBC he is voting Labour

Phones4U founder John Caudwell gave the Conservatives £500K before the last general election.

www.bbc.com