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[Roy Bloom]

And yet you maintain that a man who says he is a woman, is a woman.

I am talking about sex, not "gender," as you will know if you have read any of my posts.

Man and woman are words that describe genders.
Therefore a transwoman is a woman.

an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth: She was the first trans woman elected to a national office. Mary is a woman who was assigned male at birth.

woman

1. an adult female human being: 2. an adult who lives and identifies as female…

dictionary.cambridge.org

 

[JohnD]

Man and woman are words that describe genders.

No. As you know, an adult human female is called a "woman"
And an adult human male is called a "man"

In current parlance, the idea that you can choose whatever gender you want, does not affect your actual sex.

 

[Roy Bloom]

No. As you know, an adult human female is called a "woman"
And an adult human male is called a "man"

In current parlance, the idea that you can choose whatever gender you want, does not affect your actual sex.

As you can see my definitions were lifted from the Cambridge Dictionary.
Man and woman are words that describe genders.

You'll have to start saying a male is not a female.
But we might pull that one apart as well because sex is not binary, as illustrated by numerous scientific and medical opinions.

Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed. Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people.

What is gender? What is sex? - CIHR

...

cihr-irsc.gc.ca

These simplistic ideas make you feel comfortable?

It isn’t as simple as you might think​

Most of us have been raised with pretty simplistic ideas about sex and gender. Namely, that there are two sexes, male and female, and that they align with two genders, man and woman.
What is gender?
Society has traditionally taught us that there are two genders: man and woman. We’re told that those who are assigned male at birth are men and those who are assigned female at birth are women.
But gender isn’t an either/or scenario. It’s a spectrum.

What’s the Difference Between Sex and Gender?

Society typically tells us that there are two sexes, male and female, aligned with two genders, man and woman. But that’s not true.

www.healthline.com

It's quite clear the roles of man or woman are genders.

 

[JohnD]

opinions.

Sex is a fact, not an opinion.

You can call yourself a kitten if you want, but unless you are a juvenile cat, I will not agree with you.

 

[motorbiking]

It's already out of date.
As someone who is supposed to have some legal trainig, ypu should have known this.
Maybe you did, but you forgot to mention it.

Transgender and gender identity at work, a discrimination case that tested the Quality Act 2010, Lawson-West Solicitors - Lawson West Solicitors in Leicester

www.lawson-west.co.uk

That person was very clearly discriminated against for being trans. Being trans is protected. It doesn’t give you the right to change sex and expect to be as if you were always that sex. Read sec 7. That’s all you get. No more.

Saying something may seem out of date is not equal to saying the legal position has changed. It hasn’t

 

[Roy Bloom]

Sex is a fact, not an opinion.

You can call yourself a kitten if you want, but unless you are a juvenile cat, I will not agree with you.

The bottom line​

As we’ve seen here, sex and gender are far more complicated than many of us were raised to believe.
The most important thing to remember is that it’s up to each individual to determine their gender, and indeed, sex.
The best thing you can do is respect the sex and gender identity of the people you encounter and treat each individual you meet with sensitivity and care.

What’s the Difference Between Sex and Gender?

Society typically tells us that there are two sexes, male and female, aligned with two genders, man and woman. But that’s not true.

www.healthline.com

Sensitivity and care is obviously not the JohnD MO. He's proved that repeatedly with his attempts at fomenting hatred towards transgenders, because he has an ideological belief in the binary, immutable nature of sex, in contrast to the current modern day scientific and medical understanding.
JohnDinosaur ??

 

[Roy Bloom]

That person was very clearly discriminated against for being trans. Being trans is protected. It doesn’t give you the right to change sex and expect to be as if you were always that sex. Read sec 7. That’s all you get. No more.

Saying something may seem out of date is not equal to saying the legal position has changed. It hasn’t

They were very clearly gender fluid.
It says so.

Some of these concerns have been addressed in Taylor v Jaguar Land Rover Limited, the Claimant identified as non-binary and gender fluid.

You're very dishonest for someone with supposed legal training.

Read the judgement!
Here, I'll copy a part of it for you:

The respondent’s (i,e, Land Rover) statutory defence to the above allegations (the Act only applies to Gender Reassignment) fails, and is totally without merit.

The damages awarded were uplifted (by 20% IIR) for various reasons.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

gender fluid.

So one can be a Man or a Woman depending on the mood ?

I identify as vaccinated but I’m not!

 

[motorbiking]

They were very clearly gender fluid.
It says so.


You're very dishonest for someone with supposed legal training.

Read the judgement!
Here, I'll copy a part of it for you:

Oh ffs. Why don’t YOU just read it. Gender reassignment. That is sec 7 protection

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f68b2ebe90e077f5ac3bb5a/Ms_R_Taylor_V_Jaguar_Land_Rover_Ltd_-_1304471_2018_-_judgment.pdf

 

[Roy Bloom]

Oh ffs. Why don’t you just read it.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f68b2ebe90e077f5ac3bb5a/Ms_R_Taylor_V_Jaguar_Land_Rover_Ltd_-_1304471_2018_-_judgment.pdf

Not only have I read it I copied para 6 for you:

The respondent’s(i.e. Land Rover) statutory defence (section 7 of the Equalities Act 2010) to the above allegations fails, and is totally without merit.

The Equalities Act of 1976 did not suddenly disappear.

I can understand your frustration, supposed to have had some legal training and here you are misrepresenting the law, and failing to understand the judgement.

 

[Roy Bloom]

So one can be a Man or a Woman depending on the mood ?

That's gender fluid.

I identify as vaccinated but I’m not!

That's dishonest.

 

[motorbiking]

You clearly don’t understand what you are reading.

The defence fails because the person was protected as a person who has gender reassigned.

They argued that this person did not have protected characteristics as a gender reassigned person. They were wrong. Their defence was without merit.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

That's gender fluid.


That's dishonest.

No both aren’t true.

You can’t switch between being a man or women. What will the certificate say? Do you have to live 2 years as a women “currently a man” Then you’re classed as a women, but when it suits you’re a “man” again ?

Roy stop pedalling this rubbish.

 

[Roy Bloom]

You clearly don’t understand what you are reading.

The defence fails because the person was protected as a person who has gender reassigned.

They argued that this person did not have protected characteristics as a gender reassigned person. They were wrong. Their defence was without merit.

Evidenlty you aren't as well read as you like to think. I ahve already posted this:

Some of these concerns have been addressed in Taylor v Jaguar Land Rover Limited, the Claimant identified as non-binary and gender fluid. The Claimant informed managers she was transitioning from male to female and wanted to be able to dress in female styles at work on some days but had no intention of undergoing any medical procedures.

Their was no gender reassignment.
He/she was not undergoing any gender reassignment procedure.

If you rely on the judgement alone, you're likely to come unstuck. You need to understand the background of the case.
But I don't need to teach you, you've already had some legl training, allegedly.

 

[transam]

Taking a common sense approach

They’re all a bunch of fruit cakes

And so is Roy / dazzler