Is a peoples vote likely?

[Ihavenojob]

But doesn't a no deal mandate a hard border between ROI and NI?

How is it done in Cyprus ?

 

[EddieM]

How is it done in Cyprus ?

If it's like Greece, via the tradesman entrance.

 

[Notch7]

Even if they did, and even if they won, their version of Brexantasy would no more survive contact with reality than hers.

Current Labour policy is to sit on the fence still because 5 million Labour voters, voted Brexit.

Labour is still muttering about staying in 'a customs union', but conveniently keeping quiet on free movement

 

[Ihavenojob]

If it's like Greece, via the tradesman entrance.

That is the EU proletariat getting that.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

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But this sort of thing is "helpful", is it?

These people are not asylum seekers, they are attemping illegal immigrants coming to our country to take advantage of our "high trust society" and knowing that we are a soft touch. They come to work in the black economy, claim benefits, harass and rape our women and mock our police. They know that they will be welcomed and protected by our soppy liberal establishment. There are proper channels for asylum seeking and the English Channel is not one of them. They are effectively invaders and should be treated as such - repel them with force, lethal force if necessary. They will stop coming.

Could we have an explanation of what is considered "helpful", and what isn't?

 

[Notch7]

How is it done in Cyprus ?

Isnt Cyprus a 'fudge'

Euro for example not official currency of north but widely used.

I dont know much about the hard border between the South and North

 

[noseall]

conveniently keeping quiet

It's called opposition party privilege.

Fortunately, the Brexit fiasco is purely a Tory party calamity.

 

[wobs]

Or she could revoke A50, and re-trigger shortly afterwards, effectively extending by 2 years. [sarcasm]Wouldn't that be fun [/sarcasm]

 

[JohnD]

Or she could revoke A50, and re-trigger shortly afterwards

Whichever PM revokes A50 might not be in office long enough to re-trigger it.

 

[transam]

But this sort of thing is "helpful", is it?

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Could we have an explanation of what is considered "helpful", and what isn't?

Don't u know nufink
Helpful is where you help
People . Simples

Some thing I do on a regular basis

 

[ellal]

The poor chap still can't understand why his posts get removed or he gets blocked

The 'poor chap' knows exactly why 'his posts get removed or he gets blocked'...

He finds it all too easy to show notchy and his cohorts up to be the incompetents that they are, and they have no other response

 

[durhamplumber]

And here's a representative of "smart money"

This odious character, and associates, shovelled millions into firing up Leave, and profited billions from the ensuing turmoil.

Now he seeks to make more billions by the collapse of Brexit.

"Odey homes in on UK assets ahead of key Brexit vote

Investors say scrapping EU exit would trigger ‘monster’ rally in stocks and sterling"

"A top hedge fund manager says he is losing faith in the chances of the UK leaving the EU, leaving sterling well placed for a rare but rapid rally.

Crispin Odey, founder of Odey Asset Management and a big financial backer of the campaign to leave the union, had been betting against the pound throughout last year, in the expectation that leaving the bloc would hit the UK economy hard. But in the past two weeks he closed those short positions, and is now neutral on the currency, he told the Financial Times.

He has also been buying some UK stocks including Dixons, the high street retailer. “Markets have already decided essentially that Brexit isn’t going to happen,” he said. “The pound should rally; it’s very oversold.”

Investors’ enthusiasm to pounce on news suggesting the exit from the UK may be softened, delayed, or even scrapped, is clear. On Friday the pound jumped as much as 0.6 per cent to a high of $1.2850 on reports the Cabinet was planning to delay Brexit and after foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt said voting down Theresa May’s deal to exit the EU could scupper Brexit altogether.

Next week, the prime minister’s plan for Brexit will be presented to parliament for approval. Mr Odey is among those who believe it will not pass. Given that three-quarters of MPs voted to stay in the EU in the 2016 referendum, “it’s easy to see . . . that you’re going to get a Remain result”, he said. “I haven’t given up the Brexit dream. But I don’t think the pound will crash down to $1.05,” he added. Sterling “has got a positive bias to it”.

After spending most of 2018 heading south against the dollar and the euro, sterling has rebounded against the greenback and is roughly flat against the single currency since mid-December.

Defeats in the House of Commons for the government have revealed what appears to be a majority of MPs against a no-deal Brexit and limited the government’s options. Other market participants agree that any shift to a soft Brexit would kick the pound much higher, particularly given the weight of bets against it that have persisted for the past two years.

It would be a “monster” rally, said Gregory Perdon, co-chief investment officer at private bank Arbuthnot Latham.

Mr Odey, whose Odey European fund gained 53 per cent last year as one of the world’s best-performing hedge funds after losing 21.7 per cent the previous year, said Mrs May’s Brexit proposal was “completely out”.

A so-called Norway Plus option, in which Britain would become part of the European Free Trade Association, is “not bad” but “a long way short” of a full Brexit, he added.

Most hedge funds have been reluctant to place bets one way or another on sterling for some time, believing that the political turmoil was too hard to decipher and that the eventual move in the pound could just as easily be lower or higher. However, in recent months some have started to venture in by buying call options — the right to buy at a set price — which lets them profit from a rebound whilst limiting their losses.

Banks’ analysts are also turning positive on the pound because they believe the prospect of a no-deal is too ugly for lawmakers to stomach. BNP Paribas, for instance, said it was “time to go long”. “We expect the pound to strengthen if a consensus builds for a second EU referendum ‒ as we see as likely to be the case ‒ as markets adjust to an increased probability of no Brexit and a reduced probability of a ‘no deal’,” said Parisha Saimbi at the French bank. Sterling would rise to around $1.36 in that scenario, she predicted — a pick-up of nearly 10 cents. Kit Juckes at Société Générale goes further, suggesting that if it breaks $1.35 it could reach as high as $1.45. Its average between 2010 and 2015 was, after all, $1.58, he said. “Not an easy spot trade” he said, given the problems in picking timing, but potentially one to play through options."

https://www.ft.com/content/cc491f18-15bc-11e9-a581-4ff78404524e


Do you know who the people are that will actually be better off as a result of Brexit? I do. It isn't the common citizens of the country. Not even the richest 10%

Yes,you said,a thousand times

 

[durhamplumber]

If the next referendum can be delayed for a couple of years, demographics will have changed the result.

Rofl

 

[durhamplumber]

They have voted 56 times in General Elections since 1802.

Why didn't we just stick with the results of that one, and never ask again?

Feel free to be entirely logical and consistent in your explanation.

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Are you really that thick?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Come on then DP - you do it.

If the principle is that having asked the people what they want wrt to political and economic issues once, we must never ask them again, can you put forward a logical explanation, consistent with that principle, of why we've been asked "which party's package of political and economic offerings do you want" 56 times since 1802?