Is France Correct?

[carmanmemoranda]

France hadn’t got a clue how many they have as they can walk over borders unchecked throughout most of mainland Europe

So notch7 - how many do you think the uk should take ?

1,
10,
100,
1000,
10000
100000
1 million
10 million
100 million

Which is it ?

Let's say 1000 ?

What happens when more arrive

Shouting " stop the boats" doesn't work. Talk of limits is a smokescreen

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

France does take more

not true

How many people do we grant protection to?

www.gov.uk

Statistics - Asylum Information Database | European Council on Refugees and Exiles

Overview of statistical practice In France, detailed statistics on asylum applications and first instance decisions are published annually by the Office of Protection of Refugees and Stateless Persons (OFPRA) in its activity reports. The next OFPRA Activity Report will be published in spring...

asylumineurope.org

more apply but most are rejected.

The success rate in France for asylum application is about 44%, including appeals.
44% of 167,000 is about 73,500. (from your link)
The approvals in UK for2024 was 68,500.

A total of 68,564 people were granted refugee status or other leave following an asylum application in the year ending March 2024. This is the highest number of people granted since records began (in 1984)

How many people do we grant protection to? (second edition)

www.gov.uk

Maths not your strong point?

Then there is the arrivals from French Overseas territories that don't need an application for asylum.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

France hadn’t got a clue how many they have as they can walk over borders unchecked throughout most of mainland Europe

I suggest you read the link provided by motorbiking.

Asylum procedure❖
Access to the territory – land borders: During 2022, France again renewed its temporary border controls, in place since 2015. Between January and October 2022 included, 72,581decisions refusing entry were issued at the border with Italy (40,274), Spain (16,988), Belgium(10,761) and Switzerland (4,558). Reports of people being refused entry without their protection needs being taken into account at the Italian border persisted in 2022. Local authorities report almost 40,000 arrests and 33,000 returns to Italy. NGOs confirm many violations of fundamental rights continue to be observed in the main places of detention at the French-Italian border. Border controls were reinforced following Italy’s refusal to welcome the Ocean Viking NGO rescue ship in November 2022.

 

[Brigadier]

the ones to blame for this crisis and any deaths in The Channel.

People like you, you mean?

After all, you widely and frequently post about the

4* hotels, benefits, free health treatment, free dental treatment, Two Tier's amnesty, etc, etc, etc

that await them.


RWR - thick as fook.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

more apply but most are rerejected.

How and why are they rejecting more?

Why can't we, that's where the real issue is. Ignore the other smokescreens.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Anybody?

How many of your close relatives would you deny a helping hand if their need was great?

1,
10,
100,
1000,
10000
100000
1 million
10 million
100 million

Which is it ?

 

[Munroast]

not true

How many people do we grant protection to?

www.gov.uk

Statistics - Asylum Information Database | European Council on Refugees and Exiles

Overview of statistical practice In France, detailed statistics on asylum applications and first instance decisions are published annually by the Office of Protection of Refugees and Stateless Persons (OFPRA) in its activity reports. The next OFPRA Activity Report will be published in spring...

asylumineurope.org

more apply but most are rejected.

And then they turn a blind eye and help them set sail to England

seriously, who are we taking in, probably unwanted by their country of origin, then possibly rejected through Italy, Austria, Germany Belguim, France, and then, is our daft gov going to be giving them free ferry tickets, and then a free home? (I doubt they will be left homeless like our ex servicemen)

 

[motorbiking]

The success rate in France for asylum application is about 44%, including appeals.
44% of 167,000 is about 73,500. (from your link)
The approvals in UK for2024 was 68,500.

How many people do we grant protection to? (second edition)

www.gov.uk

Maths not your strong point?

Then there is the arrivals from French Overseas territories that don't an application for asylum.

Or you could read it.
The latter include requalifiés from previous years (not included in 2022 GUDA statistics) and people whose asylum application is not registered in GUDA (i.e., asylum claims in detention and persons arriving through resettlement programmes).

So thats last years plus those coming through official schemes (not included in the UK numbers) then look at the table.

UK accepts more claimants than France. Simples

 

[motorbiking]

How and why are they rejecting more?

Why can't we, that's where the real issue is. Ignore the other smokescreens.

finally we agree. But the problem is what to with those who are rejected.

 

[Murdochcat]

How many of your close relatives would you deny a helping hand if their need was great?

So you won’t put your name to a number.

Sad really given some of your views and comments aimed at people you don’t agree with

You must be @Notch7 twin

 

[ellal]

Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Convention

Possibly two ways of reading that, I only see one.

And as you only see one, then could you tell us if there is a 'legal way' for an asylum seeker to get to the UK?

 

[Murdochcat]

Let's say 1000 ?

What happens when more arrive

Shouting " stop the boats" doesn't work. Talk of limits is a smokescreen

1000 is about 1 weeks worth

Stop the boats? Smash the gangs ?

Nothing will change

 

[Notch7]

France hadn’t got a clue how many they have as they can walk over borders unchecked throughout most of mainland Europe

So notch7 - how many do you think the uk should take ?

1,
10,
100,
1000,
10000
100000
1 million
10 million
100 million

Which is it ?

You don’t want people in small boats coming here.

Please tell me where you think they should go, if you don’t want them here.

As a British citizen you don’t want them here….so a French citizen has the right to say they don’t want them in France.
So what’s your solution?


Given that the U.K. has no direct control over who leaves French shores in a small boat, why do you expect me to give a target number on something that can’t be controlled

 

[Notch7]

Anybody?

You might as well ask me how many days of rain I want next year

 

[Notch7]

So notch7 - how many do you think the uk should take ?

1,
10,
100,
1000,
10000
100000
1 million
10 million
100 million

Which is it ?

How many do you want?

Come on, you must have a figure in mind…so let’s hear it