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[Mrs Ten Names]

I don't know either. Make it a condition of their ‘release' that they turn up at certain times at certain places to take their meds or face being taken back in?

If the required accommodation does not exist in sufficient quantity, judgment decisions have to be made. Mistakes will occur.

If you were required to re-register a vehicle in a foreign country, by law, but you didn't know how to do that, despite there being numerous agencies offering the service to assist you, so you made a judgement decision to persistently and seriously break the law over a number of years. Suppose you had a serious accident and you were uninsured, and your vehicle was found to be untested and unregistered
What do you think should happen to those criminal drivers?
There are laws in place to enforce such requirements, but some people find ways to avoid compliance.
And you have the audacity to be outraged at others.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I seem to remember seeing stuff two three decades back about a change in approach with mental health patients. Wherever possible, they wouldn't be held in mental health hospitals but would live in the community, supported by mental health services.

It is of course a laudable approach, however for patients with more challenging conditions, it requires a community service that is adequately resourced to help these patients 24/7. That of course is where it falls down. Mental health services in the UK have been far from adequate for years if not decades.

Laudable policies are all well and good. However the result is often not as intended. A bit like giving people on benefits all their money directly instead of councils paying landlords directly for rent. The intention was to make individuals feel more responsible for their own life, their own money. What actually happened? Many of them just stopped paying their rent.

 

[Mottie]

I've just found this on Mind website.

View attachment 352026

Possibly in this case the 'responsible clinician' wasn’t responsible enough.

 

[THFC]

If the required accommodation does not exist in sufficient quantity, judgment decisions have to be made. Mistakes will occur.

If you were required to re-register a vehicle in a foreign country, by law, but you didn't know how to do that, despite there being numerous agencies offering the service to assist you, so you made a judgement decision to persistently and seriously break the law over a number of years. Suppose you had a serious accident and you were uninsured, and your vehicle was found to be untested and unregistered
What do you think should happen to those criminal drivers?
There are laws in place to enforce such requirements, but some people find ways to avoid compliance.
And you have the audacity to be outraged at others.

Has Himmy transitioned?

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Has Himmy transitioned?

I've adopted a name that better suits the legend that you and others have created.
A living legend now.
You've added a bit of extra detail: a transgender living legend.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Possibly in this case the 'responsible clinician' wasn’t responsible enough.

It's shocking isn't it. When professionals use their inside knowledge to exploit any weaknesses in the system to enable their repetitive law breaking.
They should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Don't you think?

 

[JonathanM]

Possibly in this case the 'responsible clinician' wasn’t responsible enough.

I don't know even know whether he was under a Community Treatment Order. He might have been released from hospital with no conditions at all.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Lock him up or force him to take his meds, not discharge him because he failed to turn up for appointments. Lazy bastards. I really think it should be an offence for health workers, parole boards or other 'specialists' that fail to do their job properly.

So you support more money needed for more prisons and secure hospitals, good.

Shame your Tories kept cutting everything

 

[JonathanM]

I seem to remember seeing stuff two three decades back about a change in approach with mental health patients. Wherever possible, they wouldn't be held in mental health hospitals but would live in the community, supported by mental health services.

It is of course a laudable approach, however for patients with more challenging conditions, it requires a community service that is adequately resourced to help these patients 24/7. That of course is where it falls down. Mental health services in the UK have been far from adequate for years if not decades.

Laudable policies are all well and good. However the result is often not as intended. A bit like giving people on benefits all their money directly instead of councils paying landlords directly for rent. The intention was to make individuals feel more responsible for their own life, their own money. What actually happened? Many of them just stopped paying their rent.

I remember in the 1980s, under Mrs T, they brought in "Care in the Community". That might be what you are thinking of?

 

[algas]

That's one barsteward that should swing schitzo or not

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

That's one barsteward that should swing schitzo or not

Let's liquidate all the mentally ill patients.
They did that in WW2.
They called it child Euthanasia then.
Child Euthanasia was the name given to the organized killing of severely mentally and physically disabled children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era[ in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of the program, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Some people are intent on recreating history.

 

[Mottie]

So you support more money needed for more prisons and secure hospitals, good.

Shame your Tories kept cutting everything

Never mind, your Labour is going to tax, tax, tax and then you can be happy.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Never mind, your Labour is going to tax, tax, tax and then you can be happy.

You can't have it both ways . But hopefully achieving growth will be the answer

Services cost money. Do you want them, or don't you. You've seen what cutbacks do. Want more of them?

And just for the record, I'm not a labour supporter. Give them time and I will criticise when they get it wrong. But given the choice we had it was foolish to vote any other way, wasn't it. You didn't vote for the tories or worse, did you ?

 

[algas]

Let's liquidate all the mentally ill patients.
They did that in WW2.
They called it child Euthanasia then.
Child Euthanasia was the name given to the organized killing of severely mentally and physically disabled children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era[ in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of the program, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Some people are intent on recreating history.

He isn't a child you T##t

 

[Mottie]

You didn't vote for the tories or worse, did you ?

No. I voted Reform this time.