No taxes on working people, just

[aveatry]

What I have noticed with the EU debate perticually on LBC and the James o Brian show is that all those who ring in against brexit - sooner or later they mention they used to have a holiday villa or they have family over their or their spouse is of x y or z nation. None of their objections have anything to do with the UKs best interest - only their own personal circumstances and they will argue everything and anything about it but ultimately its all about their own interest.
Take noseall who is only interested in being able to go skying when ever he wants for example
Yet the people who voted for brexit only had the UKs best interset at heart -- rightly or wrongly- missinformed or not.
It seems that RRL (rabid radicalised lefties ) on here only ultamatly only have their own interest at heart.

 

[Mottie]

What I have noticed with the EU debate perticually on LBC and the James o Brian show is that all those who ring in against brexit - sooner or later they mention they used to have a holiday villa or they have family over their or their spouse is of x y or z nation. None of their objections have anything to do with the UKs best interest - only their own personal circumstances and they will argue everything and anything about it but ultimately it’s all about their own interest.

Hmmm. Who do we know like that?

 

[Odds]

Hmmm. Who do we know like that?

well, i know you're like that for starters.

 

[Mottie]

well, i know you're like that for starters.

What, you think I have a villa, family or a spouse in the EU? lol.

 

[Odds]

What, you think I have a villa, family or a spouse in the EU? lol.

you voted for Be*it out of self-interest, no?

 

[Mottie]

you voted for Be*it out of self-interest, no?

Not at all. If you’d read my posts properly, you'd know that. I may have said that leaving the EU has not affected me personally with regards to many things such as 'only' being able to stay in the EU 90 days out of every 180 and things that were forecast by certain persons on here like loss of the EHIC, needing an IDP, loss of green card, loss of inclusive EU roaming and hour long queues at airports in the spite lane, sorry, non EU visitors lane but that’s not the same as voting out of self-interest. What self-interest reasons do you think I voted for? Worse I’ve had personally has been an extra couple of minutes in an airport queue and listening to notch bleat on about the lack of tomatoes on his supermarket shelf. The eventual upcoming €7 for a three year visa is not a real concern for me either.

I see it didn’t take long for this thread to be turned into another Brexit moan by remainers. Get over it. Move on. The sky didn’t fall in. Start your own thread on Brexit and the effects of the labour budget if you feel the need. The fact remains, as per the thread title, labours 'no rise in taxes for working people' budget looks like it’s turning into 'job losses for working people'. That’s not a good thing, is it?

 

[Odds]

Not at all. If you’d read my posts properly, you'd know that. I may have said that leaving the EU has not affected me personally with regards to many things such as 'only' being able to stay in the EU 90 days out of every 180 and things that were forecast by certain persons on here like loss of the EHIC, needing an IDP, loss of green card, loss of inclusive EU roaming and hour long queues at airports in the spite lane, sorry, non EU visitors lane but that’s not the same as voting out of self-interest. What self-interest reasons do you think I voted for? Worse I’ve had personally has been an extra couple of minutes in an airport queue and listening to notch bleat on about the lack of tomatoes on his supermarket shelf. The eventual upcoming €7 for a three year visa is not a real concern for me either.

I see it didn’t take long for this thread to be turned into another Brexit moan by remainers. Get over it. Move on. The sky didn’t fall in. Start your own thread on Brexit and the effects of the labour budget if you feel the need. The fact remains, as per the thread title, labours 'no rise in taxes for working people' budget looks like it’s turning into 'job losses for working people'. That’s not a good thing, is it?

Far as i can see y'all voted for Bre*it to Make England Great Again - how's that workin' for ya?

 

[Mottie]

Far as i can see y'all voted for Bre*it to Make England Great Again - how's that workin' for ya?

Looks like reading my posts and understanding them is not your forté. I’ll try it one more time, only slower.

As. I. Said. This. Is. A. Labour. Budget. Thread. Feel. Free. To. Start. A. Brexit. Thread. Of. Your. Own.

 

[motorbiking]

Labour won - get over it
Trump won - moan about it
Leave won - complain for a decade.

About right?

 

[Odds]

Looks like reading my posts and understanding them is not your forté. I’ll try it one more time, only slower.

As. I. Said. This. Is. A. Labour. Budget. Thread. Feel. Free. To. Start. A. Brexit. Thread. Of. Your. Own.

but-but-butt the Labour budget is a consequence of the decision to leave the EU - a terrible mistake only denied by those of voted for it. Raising taxes? Of course, they are. Someone has to pay for the Tory mistakes and since you or the Bre*it denying fossils won't pay then i guess the poor working putz at Costas will have to make do.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

What I have noticed with the EU debate perticually on LBC and the James o Brian show is that all those who ring in against brexit - sooner or later they mention they used to have a holiday villa or they have family over their or their spouse is of x y or z nation. None of their objections have anything to do with the UKs best interest - only their own personal circumstances and they will argue everything and anything about it but ultimately its all about their own interest.
Take noseall who is only interested in being able to go skying when ever he wants for example
Yet the people who voted for brexit only had the UKs best interset at heart -- rightly or wrongly- missinformed or not.
It seems that RRL (rabid radicalised lefties ) on here only ultamatly only have their own interest at heart.

You do have some benefits to show then?

 

[ajohn]

looks like it’s turning into 'job losses for working people'. That’s not a good thing, is it?

What happened to jobs during the period of worse inflation? While that is going to worsen things it's not by an amount that really concerns the BofE. The BofE use CPI, RPI and a different RPI. Current inflation CPI
Prices in the UK went up by 1.7% in the 12 months to September, the lowest rate in three-and-a-half years.
Food and services are running at a higher rate. Food about 3%, services may have dropped below 5%
Average annual growth in pay (excluding bonuses) during the three-month period was 4.9%, down from 5.1% in the previous quarter. Despite the slowdown, wages are still rising faster than inflation.

UK inflation rate: How quickly are prices rising?

The rate at which prices are rising has dropped below the Bank of England's target of 2%.

www.bbc.co.uk

So from the link you can see that the BofE think the NIC increase will be passed on. So Starbucks and Mcdonald's say they are thinking of sending a letter to the gov. Both are prepared to have people waiting around in busy periods and do not carry many staff. I'm not inclined to take any notice of their comments and those are a could result in not will.

Wage rises are likely to more than offset the inflation increase.

 

[Vinty]

So are the Foreign Secretary's comments going to have no impact when he tries to reason with the USA administration then?

Or are the vitriolic comments from amateur hour politicians while in opposition not going to have any impact at all?

Comedy gold.

Trumps own VP compared him to Adolf Hitler at one time.
Boris Johnson said not very nice things about Trump at one time.
All these negative coments about Trump need to be put into context.

 

[ajohn]

Labour won - get over it
Trump won - moan about it
Leave won - complain for a decade.

About right?

To my mind pots and kettles. Both sides on here are as bad as each other.

Brexit - a major thought not given that much of a mention. Look at all of that lovely money we send to them. Ok we get some back for infrastructure etc but why not keep and spend the lot ourselves. It didn't work out. I should not need to explain why but what headed us in this direction. They are called crises..

So Labour are trying a different way of achieving this objective. So far the markets seem to be happy. In fact the iFS suggested something similar early on but total gov revenue and expenditure indicated a catch. So Labour are trying to remove that catch. That is what the budget and fiscal rules are about.

 

[motorbiking]

Markets rect to unexpected issues. In the US, the markets were nervous that it was going to be close, risking months of uncertainty. Once it was clear Trump commanded a strong win, the markets rallied. Not so for Labour, everyone knew they'd raise taxes and they did. The impact was priced in. As we start to see the slowdown the budget has triggered, we'll see the markets react. if we start heading for recession, the profit taking will come.