Oh Rwanda

Since most of them will probably get asylum anyway, why would it deter them?

If it is so very obvious - put yourself in their place and ask yourself why you might risk your life in a small boat, to cross a busy and very dangerous channel.
 
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It is mostly males making the trip by a very large margin. Why does something with so obvious an outcome, need to be modelled at all? It is simple common sense that it will work as designed. Some things are obvious, some not - this is one is obvious to work.
Source? Obvious doesn't mean right. After all making drugs illegal will stop drug use won't it.
 
If it is so very obvious - put yourself in their place and ask yourself why you might risk your life in a small boat, to cross a busy and very dangerous channel.
Because it's the only practical way to make an asylum claim in the UK?
 
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Only because Tanzania turned him down.

Mr Blair told MPs: "We are in negotiations with the Tanzanian government as to how we can process claims for asylum nearer to the country of origin. That is a sensible thing."

Various have mentioned nearer places several times. Currently no one really knows what Boris's lot really intend to do. The boat people come from all over even places where smugglers tell people the streets of London are paved with gold - just from poorer places. Those are not refugees. They are also the ones that may find themselves smuggled in and abused. Attempts at that sort of thing has been spotted on the way out of Ukraine - women as might be expected. The NGO's keep an eye open for signs of that, approach and a couple of blokes and a van disappear.
 


That doesn’t seem to be the same.

“Mr Blair reportedly offered Tanzania an extra £4 million in aid if they opened an asylum camp for Somali refugees to have their applications assessed before they made the journey to the UK”


Unless perhaps you are suggesting the current govt should allow asylum claims to be made by refugees currently residing in other countries…,maybe France for example…..if so, that is exactly what the refugee council has been recommending
 
I don’t believe that’s really the same thing at all.

It was looking at sending failed asylum seekers to Tanzania. In fact specifically Somalians.

And processing asylum seekers. It's exactly the same thing.
 
And processing asylum seekers. It's exactly the same thing.
It is not the same thing

You’ve been caught out

A failed asylum seeker is somebody who has had their claim rejected and is waiting to be deported.
 
claim rejected and is waiting to be deported
and currently are. It makes the whole idea dubious and just a political thing to do that makes little difference - other than reducing the number of boats and very possibly people who are aware that they are not refugees.

The nearer idea for processing has holes as well. Several areas would probably be needed - stable ones.
 
Since most of them will probably get asylum anyway, why would it deter them?
Because they will be in Rwanda and have asylum there. It is a perfectly safe country to be in, and if asylum was their goal then they should be very happy (even the UNHCR send refugees there) But a perfectly safe country is not their primary goal (they were perfectly safe in the EU) they're after British citizenship but unfortunately for them they are too late our little island is full.
 
Actually legal facilities in Rwanda has been mentioned that = processing. Refusing true refugees entrance has legal problems.

religious and political nutters.
Yes. I wondered what was going on in Yemen. Some terrorists there aren't now and up pops a map of the set up, couple of areas of IS control. USA trying to get Israel and several arab countries who don't entirely get on well to work together. IS seems to be active in Africa as well.
 
You can't assess whether anyone is a true refugee until they've been assessed.

I suspect some true refugees can be refused entry. Thinking of Syrian camp like areas. There are kids known as IS cubs who have been indoctrinated and no one wants them. There are still some IS moms. Moms who have IS cubs who aren't IS have to leave them if they want to migrate. Those types mostly forced to have sex with soldiers. Interesting AlJ program that went through how IS work. Pay soldiers - join to avoid starving. Grab kids and indoctrinate them noting which ones may be suitable for suicide missions and even catalogue photo's.

There will be people from other areas that have a bad reputation - such as African insurgents that mutilate people to remind them they are around.

Come from these sort of areas and being able to live in other countries probably is difficult.
 
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