Positive Discrimination - Positive Action

34 pages of this s***te ffs :rolleyes:
You haven't read it all! :eek: :eek:

Blame BT. It was his idea.
If he suggests anything else.......run a mile.
With respect, I don't think this, (my suggestion), was the real and laboured sticking point or would not have happened if the subject was offered to you by the Pope about used chewing gum.

You were looking for a fight to flex your intellectual muscles and no doubt will remain convinced that you were boxing below your body weight. That's you prerogative. ;)
 
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34 pages of this s***te ffs :rolleyes:
You haven't read it all! :eek: :eek:

Blame BT. It was his idea.
If he suggests anything else.......run a mile.
Have skim read it and it's quite repetitive

Especially my bits when I say, "Do I really have to repeat myself, again? ;)

TBH, I think that the discussion could have gone deeper and broader (but not into Brexit ;) ). By deeper, I mean hypothetical scenarios or results of alternative policies.
And by broader, I mean other nationalities perception and, if they have the same problem, which a lot simply don't have or perceive a problem, then the other approach to dealing with the perceived poblem.

But despite my comment, thanks to BT for suggesting it.
 
34 pages of this s***te ffs :rolleyes:
You haven't read it all! :eek: :eek:

Blame BT. It was his idea.
If he suggests anything else.......run a mile.
With respect, I don't think this, (my suggestion), was the real and laboured sticking point or would not have happened if the subject was offered to you by the Pope about used chewing gum.

You were looking for a fight to flex your intellectual muscles and no doubt will remain convinced that you were boxing below your body weight. That's you prerogative. ;)
I don't think that's particularly fair or accurate, BT. It's a subject that I passionately care about, believe in and support (PA that is).......but I'll leave it to your imaginations just how I care.
 
Was about to enter an edit to my last post RH.

I wish you well. An argument, by definition, is simply a difference of opinion. ;)

Of course, if you're not here anymore we can't argue. Your choice, but I've enjoyed the discourse anyway. (Sorry for any offensive or incorrect remark).

Time for bed....
 
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Was about to enter an edit to my last post RH.

I wish you well. An argument, by definition, is simply a difference of opinion. ;)

Of course, if you're not here anymore we can't argue. Your choice, but I've enjoyed the discourse anyway. (Sorry for any offensive or incorrect remark).

Time for bed....
And to you BT.
 
The BBC fits nicely into the positive discrimination category. Just watch the local news programmes or morning programmes. News items such as children learning computers at school, directing a play, singing etc - black.

News stories such as people on benefits, getting drunk, crime etc - white.

Not just the BBC. When I was teaching, and government publications appeared almost daily, there was always a noticeable preponderance of non-white faces. I'm sure that this was a PC ruling and that the publishers were obliged to make sure that every possible colour and facial type was represented. I once did a count and found that the number of each type bore no relation to the actual proportions in society.

In fact, my findings were that one colour in particular was seriously unrepresented. I'm sure I have no need to say which one.
 
The BBC fits nicely into the positive discrimination category. Just watch the local news programmes or morning programmes. News items such as children learning computers at school, directing a play, singing etc - black.

News stories such as people on benefits, getting drunk, crime etc - white.

Not just the BBC.
I still think you're out of your mind acccusing BBC and governments of discrimination.

In fact, my findings were that one colour in particular was seriously unrepresented. I'm sure I have no need to say which one.
You must have been bored beyond description to have been idly counting the number of people you can see in a picture.

Oh, hang on, there's a similar excercise in my youngest granchild's "starting to count" book.
 
The BBC fits nicely into the positive discrimination category. Just watch the local news programmes or morning programmes. News items such as children learning computers at school, directing a play, singing etc - black.
News stories such as people on benefits, getting drunk, crime etc - white.
Not just the BBC.
I still think you're out of your mind accusing BBC and governments of discrimination.
Are you blind as well as out of yours?

I note you wrote 'discrimination' when, surely, you should be pointing out that it is actually positive action and therefore a good thing.
 
The BBC fits nicely into the positive discrimination category. Just watch the local news programmes or morning programmes. News items such as children learning computers at school, directing a play, singing etc - black.
News stories such as people on benefits, getting drunk, crime etc - white.
Not just the BBC.
I still think you're out of your mind accusing BBC and governments of discrimination.
Are you blind as well as out of yours?

I note you wrote 'discrimination' when, surely, you should be pointing out that it is actually positive action and therefore a good thing.
I think your blind desire for some form of points scoring has resulted in your inability to revise the last few posts.

Squeaky accused the BBC of "positive discrimination" which is illegal (now)and JBR continued that accusation towards govenmental publications.
The EHCR has decreed that all discrimination is now illegal!

I inadvertently and mistakenly began the thread describing Positive Discrimination, which I later learnt fom EHRC website is now illegal and Positive Action is lawful. So I declared (Page 13) that I meant PA, not PD, all along, although there is nothing to distinguish between PD and PA.

So Please keep up. Your tardiness results in you making silly accusations and confused comments. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Does it really matter what is called? It amounts to the same thing but with a different label to make it legal.

Try it. Listen to the news item, then guess who's up first - works every time.
 
It's perfectly simple. Think of it like apples.

Golder Delicious are illegal whereas Granny Smiths are not despite both being apples.

What you have to accept we think about though Rogue, in this analogy, we just don't like either type of apple.

We consider them both to be full of worms and not addressing the core problem. We think PA is still taking the pith. ("Replacing an old wrong for a new wrong").
 
It's perfectly simple. Think of it like apples.

Golder Delicious are illegal whereas Granny Smiths are not despite both being apples.

What you have to accept we think about though Rogue, in this analogy, we just don't like either type of apple.

We consider them both to be full of worms and not addressing the core problem. We think PA is still taking the pith. ("Replacing an old wrong for a new wrong").
Even though it's considered expert opinion that apples are good for your health? Not just your health but the same applies to everyone, which in turn, reduces the NHS bill, etc, etc, etc.
Think of it like that and it's difficult to deny the benefits of Granny Smiths aka PA.

Another simple analogy along the "apple" direction; the curent state of the apple trees are considered diseased, although still providing some apples, and liable to infect other species of trees. So the government and other authorities try to persuade the commercial growers to plant new, more disease-resistant trees.
You, in your wisdom, choose to ignore that advice, prefering instead the old trees that you're familiar with because you don't understand, are frightened of, or suspicious of any new trees.

Or you might say, we don't like apples therefore we don't care if all the apple trees die, we won't miss the apples.
What about the rest of the population that do like apples? Should they be so disadvantaged? Or do you take the liberalist attitude and say, "let them plant their own, if that's what they want. We don't want them, therefore they shouldn't be grown on a commercial scale!"
 
Does it really matter what is called? It amounts to the same thing but with a different label to make it legal.

Try it. Listen to the news item, then guess who's up first - works every time.
Then try publicly accusing the BBC or government oganisations of Positive Discrimination.
I would imagine that they would politely try to educate you to the fact that discrimination is illegal.
But if you persist in your accusations you might find yourself in a tricky situation.
Try it.
 
BTW, just for Dex, just been shopping, 10 litres of Cabernet Sauvignon for 21 Euros (in a box).
Three boxes of La Vielle Eglise vin rouge, at 11 Euros a box (6 bottles to a box)
and 2 boxes (i Merlot and 1 Cabernet Sauvignon at 9 Euros a box of six bottles.

:mrgreen:
 
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