Putin, arse, elbow

[Justin Passing]

Those missiles come in a tube like we see, with a fancy name, with the bomblets or whatever inside which are dropped before the tube thing comes down. I learned this on my sortie to the sewer side, so it may not be true. They can carry things like cluster bombs full of anti-personnel flechettes, and don't necessarily make a crater at all. Thunderbird 4 came to mind.

I saw several nuanced translations for whatever was written on the side of the case, things like "on behalf of the children", so that's a bit hard to deduce anything from.
Or "
'for what has been done to the children'"

Shot down - range is 120km I think I read, so it could have been on the way to anywhere. The Ukies are using them, so that's plausible. I don't care, it's still the Russians' fault.

 

[noseall]

The Russians aren't the only people who have deliberately targeted civilians for death.
A war crime is a war crime no matter who commits it.

Adolph as well as Putin is renowned.

 

[transam]

If I recall when the Russians were in Afghanistan they were dropping
Explosives mine type bombs disguised as children’s toys ???

recall some such report ??? At the time ????

and as for war crimes the Russians are responsible for all of them

if they had not invaded there would not be any ??

 

[Vinty]

the Russians are committing war crimes on a grand scale

The British government is refusing to back a UN investigation into alleged genocide by Saudi Arabia.
Some of the alleged war crimes are outlined below.
Quote...

The Saudi-led military coalition, which includes the UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait, has “targeted civilians … in a widespread and systematic manner”, according to the UN – dropping bombs on hospitals, schools, weddings, funerals and even camps for displaced people fleeing the bombing...


Why are aren't you getting all worked up and angry about these alleged atrocities.

 

[Vinty]

in combination with everything else it does

You don't know what you are talking about.
When you have missiles being launched all over the place, then sooner or later innocent people are going to get killed.
Why should you expect higher standards of behaviour from the Russians, when your own side doesn't behave any better when they invade other people's countries.

 

[Vinty]

against the Argentinian infantry, not many civilians in the area, and few armoured targets.

That was the point i was making, some posters appeared to be inferring that the use of cluster bombs in the train station explosion was some sort of evidence that civilians were being deliberately targeted.

 

[JohnD]

That was the point i was making, some posters appeared to be inferring that the use of cluster bombs in the train station explosion was some sort of evidence that civilians were being deliberately targeted.

so what do you think the purpose of cluster bombs is?

 

[Justin Passing]

Atrocities in the UN war in Korea
As well

probably the Falklands ???

none of this has any relevance
What so ever to the Ukraine

zilch
Nowt
Nada

It just means there's atrocities in every damned war.

Bad luck too, this missile may have just missed its target.

The Russians were also using the same missile in the exercises just across the border, in Russia no distance away.

I haven't seen a report that it was shot down.
If the Ukes shot it down they can't blame the Russians for targeting civilians.
If the Russkies shot it down they could say so without pretending it was nothing to do with them.

 

[bernardgreen]

That was the point i was making, some posters appeared to be inferring that the use of cluster bombs in the train station explosion was some sort of evidence that civilians were being deliberately targeted.

The cluster bombs are anti-personal devices, specifically designed to kill and/or maim the people defending a location while leaving the infra-structure intact for the invaders to take over. Damaging the station and/or the railway equipment would hinder the movement of Russian war materials if the Russians were able to take over the town. It is very likely that the Russians believe that killing civilians might induce survivors to pressure the Ukraine government to surrender,

 

[transam]

The British government is refusing to back a UN investigation into alleged genocide by Saudi Arabia.
Some of the alleged war crimes are outlined below.
Quote...

The Saudi-led military coalition, which includes the UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait, has “targeted civilians … in a widespread and systematic manner”, according to the UN – dropping bombs on hospitals, schools, weddings, funerals and even camps for displaced people fleeing the bombing...


Why are aren't you getting all worked up and angry about these alleged atrocities.

oil

 

[Notch7]

The British government is refusing to back a UN investigation into alleged genocide by Saudi Arabia.
Some of the alleged war crimes are outlined below.
Quote...

The Saudi-led military coalition, which includes the UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait, has “targeted civilians … in a widespread and systematic manner”, according to the UN – dropping bombs on hospitals, schools, weddings, funerals and even camps for displaced people fleeing the bombing...


Why are aren't you getting all worked up and angry about these alleged atrocities.

All very interesting…..

but why can’t you admit Russia is committing appalling war crimes in Ukraine?

Do you work for a Russian company?

 

[transam]

Them anti tank missiles and the star streak weapons

are assembled / manufactured in
Belfast

they are very busy

 

[Notch7]

You don't know what you are talking about.
When you have missiles being launched all over the place, then sooner or later innocent people are going to get killed

Russia started the war

any innocent civilian deaths caused by Ukrainian military defending its people are the sole responsibility of Russia.

 

[Notch7]

posters appeared to be inferring that the use of cluster bombs in the train station explosion was some sort of evidence that civilians were being deliberately targeted

if Russia wanted to bomb a railway it doesn’t need to choose cluster bombs at a station.

It’s deliberate targeting of civilians - ordered by your buddy Putin

 

[transam]

if Russia wanted to bomb a railway it doesn’t need to choose cluster bombs at a station.

It’s deliberate targeting of civilians - ordered by your buddy Putin

every one is entitled to there opinion it’s called democracy / freedom of speech this is the UK not Russia

Vinty is not Putins buddy

and bear in mind he is posting from a place where at one time there was armed conflict
Assassinations
Intimidation
Murder
Bombings
Armed troops on the street

most if not almost most in here have never lived or had to live through that type of violence or threat of violence in our daily lives