Russian warship go F!*k yourself 
Putin, arse, elbow
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ITV News is reporting that the Russian ships of the Black Sea fleet have opened their range from the Ukrainian coast.
Why would they do that if the Moskva was sunk by a self inflicted accidental fire?
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But of course I’m sure tiny penis man will claim it first successfully neutralised multiple Neptune missiles and is now on a special underwater mission.ITV News is reporting that the Russian ships of the Black Sea fleet have opened their range from the Ukrainian coast.
Why would they do that if the Moskva was sunk by a self inflicted accidental fire?
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Reports say it has been towed away. True - False, pass
It seems the ship was specifically designed to take care of USA and other aircraft carrier at long range. Hypersonic missiles mentioned but I think it was made before those were available.
This morning they took out an arms factory near Kyev. Built up area but a legitimate target. Several cruise missiles by the sound of it. Ukraine has also attacked actually in Russia who say any more of that and things will step up. Civilians hurt, a couple critically. Suspect that may apply to the Donbas as well.
The part our military find odd is that Russia didn't take out things like arms factories early on.
This morning they took out an arms factory near Kyev. Built up area but a legitimate target. Several cruise missiles by the sound of it. Ukraine has also attacked actually in Russia who say any more of that and things will step up. Civilians hurt, a couple critically. Suspect that may apply to the Donbas as well.
The part our military find odd is that Russia didn't take out things like arms factories early on.
I wonder if it had 'specials' on board.
Likely the Russians were expecting a walk in the park and didn't expect arms reinforcement to be a factor needing consideration?
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Nonsense. There are no legitimate targets in an illegitimate invasion.
Doesn't really matter what you think, or me for that matter. I can also think of 2 illegal invasions one still ongoing. Afraid I am inclined to think pots and kettles in that respect.
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ITV News is reporting that the Russian ships of the Black Sea fleet have opened their range from the Ukrainian coast.
Why would they do that if the Moskva was sunk by a self inflicted accidental fire?
The claim, which fits, is that it was providing anti-aircraft cover. Some obvious "well,..." statements can follow that, but the result is that they now know that aren't covered!
(I was going to write "the upshot is..."
)An interesting read which also clears up some misconceptions concerning earlier times.
https://www.rand.org/blog/2022/01/us-military-aid-to-ukraine-a-silver-bullet.html
It also outlines what Russia could have done - much the same as west military are saying - but didn't when it's known that they can.
https://www.rand.org/blog/2022/01/us-military-aid-to-ukraine-a-silver-bullet.html
It also outlines what Russia could have done - much the same as west military are saying - but didn't when it's known that they can.
There is a USA agreement not to carry them on warships. It seems to be a strange one = verbal nothing signed etc. Probably as it's more feasible to use them than hitting stuff on land.
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