Putin, arse, elbow

[ajohn]

no his take on the caper was nato targeted the ship with missiles

and the Russians are keeping quiet deliberately so as to not start world war three ??

hence the Swan matches no casualties story

Nato
US
Uk

deny any such involvement

It was probably aliens. The little green men type.

Not that it matters really. It's something that happened. It's had a result. The ship it seems sank. Their is a video kicking about. The Russians say they can't verify it. LOL It may not be that ship. Fact it might be any ship. Note the word might.

 

[denso13]

Not that it matters really.

Of course it matters. A big blow to the invaders, however it happened. Ukraine are defending for their lives and country, they should do that by any means possible.

 

[ajohn]

Of course it matters.

It has happened and who did it doesn't matter - I assumed you could read. In real terms it is very likely to be what was reported. An ex soviet missile that Ukraine has worked on to boost it's range a bit. Past that is just very probably a conspiracy theory. Those need something plausible as a basis - the ship was hit. Oh some said towed away.

 

[denso13]

Oh some said towed away.

Yea the invading murderers, they are proven liars though.

 

[transam]

The west need to supply the Ukraine with certain long range missiles so as they can accurately target Russian positions

offensive weapon systems are the order of the day

 

[ajohn]

Yea the invading murderers, they are proven liars though.

You think the Ukrainians are perfectly honest all of the time then?

 

[denso13]

You think the Ukrainians are perfectly honest all of the time then?

Totally different, you are not comparing like for like. Ukraine has been invaded by a neighbouring dictator and should be supported for trying anything they can to save their country.

Putin is a war criminal with his invasion bordering on genocide.

 

[ajohn]

According to C4 the 300 strikes were more or less overnight. Only pictures of the garage are being shown. The report of 5 bangs in the east from people there may indicate they hit something that did explode with 4 missiles or less and more exploded. They will not want the Russians to know how things went but it seems satellites can tell anyway. There will probably be some limitations with cloud cover and what radar can show hasn't ben disclosed. It has been inferred from vehicle identifications. A claim that it can match photo is very likely to be bull due to wavelength and physics. It seems they use synthetic apertures. In simples - say 2 small dishes far apart working nearly as well as one of that diameter. This is sometimes done with radio telescopes as well.

C4's over night ? Pass.

 

[ajohn]

Oh. They seem to have captured 2 brits and want to do some sort of prisoner exchange.

 

[transam]

Prisoner exchange with some Ukranian who is a good friend of putins ???

blimey Putin needs to read up on his hero uncle Joe stalin

he never got involved in prisoner exchanges

he would not even swap a high ranking general for his own son who had been captured. By the Germans

 

[Doug99]

I can't see Ukraine handing over their high value prisoner (Putin's mate) just for a couple of Brits. I'm sure local Ukrainians would want to see some of their own folk returning home.

 

[transam]

I can't see Ukraine handing over their high value prisoner (Putin's mate) just for a couple of Brits. I'm sure local Ukrainians would want to see some of their own folk returning home.

exactly

 

[Deleted member 294929]

exactly

These Brits have been fighting their corner.... I'm sure they are appreciated

 

[ajohn]

Meanwhile, the video released by Ukrainian intelligence of Mr Medvedchuk showed him making an appeal to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
The Ukrainian oligarch asked to be exchanged for the defenders of Mariupol and any civilians allowed to leave.
The captured politician is the leader of the Opposition Platform - For Life party and is an ally of Mr Putin.
It was unclear how freely he was speaking in the video.
Mr Medvedchuk said he was a making a "plea for the Ukrainian side to exchange me for the defenders of Mariupol and its citizens who are there today have no opportunity for a safe exit through a humanitarian corridor".

About as clear as custard. Sky reporting.

 

[Vinty]

Putin is a war criminal with his invasion bordering on genocide

Define genocide.