Putin, arse, elbow

Vinty I suspect is pointing out the pots calling the kettles black aspects of it all.

Vladimir and his cronies are carrying out war crimes and are bordering on genocide. There is no comparison.
 
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nations that spent 50 years under Russian occupation are unsurprisingly desperate to prevent a recurrence.

Don't get me wrong but Russia these days is rather different to the Soviet era. It's a democracy :eek: with a twist and Putin has improved their living standards. They don't appear to be as bad as people seem to think. Ukraine is a place with rather wide variations. Something that is becoming more apparent over time in a number of countries.

OLy's are an oddball aspect that doesn't just apply to Russia.
 
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Don't get me wrong but Russia these days is rather different to the Soviet era. It's a democracy :eek: with a twist and Putin has improved their living standards. They don't appear to be as bad as people seem to think. Ukraine is a place with rather wide variations. Something that is becoming more apparent over time in a number of countries.

OLy's are an oddball aspect that doesn't just apply to Russia.

democracy :LOL:

same as Belarus than :LOL:
 
Really - what about Iraq?


Iraq was a civil war

and prior to the US caper

they invaded Kuwait

and than fought an 8 year war (?) with Iran

Middle East is full of mad mullahs fruit cakes and gangster type dictaters
 
Apologists love to distract with whataboutery. If anyone really cares they can spin up a new thread.
 
what do all these people have in common?

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Clue 1: They were all critics of Putin

Clue 2: "were"
 
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Putin has made great strides in correcting that mistake.

You ain't kidding.

No, that is no comparison to the illegal invasion that Russia are currently responsible for.
True as Putin should not have invaded. Contrary - an illegal war. Was it - pass.

Apologists love to distract with whataboutery. If anyone really cares they can spin up a new thread.

Really who's doing that? All I have said all along is that wars kill civilians. I just accept facts. You just make an inaccurate comment as you would rather ignore them,
 
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Really - what about Iraq?
Literal whataboutery.

As your pro Russia slant, it's hard to tell for sure given the poor quality of your written English, but you do give Russia a lot of leeway and enjoy anything that makes Ukraine look bad.
 
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