Putin, arse, elbow

[Justin Passing]

Turkey do not seem
( at the moment) to happy about Finland and Sweden joining Nato

apparently they have given sanctuary to some that Turkey view as terrorists ( Kurds)


????

So have we!

Organizations though, he's alleging, not just people.
Joining NATO needs unanimous approval, and Turkey is revolting.
Washington is having a word.

Biden is asking congress for another billion to help change Erduan's mind. I made that up.

 

[Justin Passing]

Ukraine are planning a big push into occupied territory ?

they say they have enough arms / weapons to arm a million men

Sounds like a bluff, when they keep asking for more.

 

[ajohn]

Turkey do not seem
( at the moment) to happy about Finland and Sweden joining Nato
apparently they have given sanctuary to some that Turkey view as terrorists ( Kurds)
????

I had not heard that yet. Turkey and Kurds is pretty simple. They have excellent relations with some and entirely the opposite with one group. They were bombing training camps run by those groups a few weeks ago. The USA seemed to use the same group against IS. Turkey wasn't happy about that either. I've never looked into the politics etc so don't know what gave rise to this.

Turkey isn't a happy bunny of late due to what happened when they made loud noises about a Saudi being chopped up in an embassy in their country. The end result being in need of money and currency problems that may still be around.

The threat to Finland if they join is less electricity - they get a proportion from Russia. 10% was mentioned. Accurate? - pass.

 

[THFC]

So have we!

Organizations though, he's alleging, not just people.
Joining NATO needs unanimous approval, and Turkey is revolting.
Washington is having a word.

Biden is asking congress for another billion to help change Erduan's mind. I made that up.

Well, they'll have to pay him more than Putin is to oppose it

 

[ajohn]

Sounds like a bluff, when they keep asking for more.

Feasible propaganda. One Ukrainian soldier proudly displayed his made in Ukraine rifle perhaps it relates to that sort of warfare. Or mechanical if the kit was available.

They do have a body of people who were trained at a camp in the Kyiv area. A summer camp. No idea how many went there but it seems to have started up in 2014. Appears to be foot soldier style training but there has been videos of what appeared to be police training for street fighting.. That is what the USA and UK were teaching earlier. Reports suggest that the UK only mentioned field medical training when this was happening and we were refusing to supply heavier weapons.

Actually an english speaking bloke who appeared to have been in this camp was interviewed in Kyiv. He said he had been taught when young. From his comments this included some thoughts about killing people.

 

[IT Minion]

Sounds like a bluff, when they keep asking for more.

They'll have enough small arms, apparently they were swimming in them. There's never enough artillery, amunition, or armoured vehicles.

 

[Justin Passing]

They'll have enough small arms, apparently they were swimming in them. There's never enough artillery, amunition, or armoured vehicles.

They can't push Russkies back with those. They'll run out of fuel, food, electricity, water.

 

[Notch7]

Turkey is revolting

I disagree, I think its rather tasty

 

[transam]

Doubt that EU member Hungary
Will be best pleased with the finns and swedes joining

 

[transam]

I had not heard that yet. Turkey and Kurds is pretty simple. They have excellent relations with some and entirely the opposite with one group. They were bombing training camps run by those groups a few weeks ago. The USA seemed to use the same group against IS. Turkey wasn't happy about that either. I've never looked into the politics etc so don't know what gave rise to this.

Turkey isn't a happy bunny of late due to what happened when they made loud noises about a Saudi being chopped up in an embassy in their country. The end result being in need of money and currency problems that may still be around.

The threat to Finland if they join is less electricity - they get a proportion from Russia. 10% was mentioned. Accurate? - pass.

Russia has already said they are cutting them off from the leccy

finns don’t seem all that concerned

 

[ajohn]

I disagree, I think its rather tasty

It's an interesting place to visit. I have twice but not to sit around sunning and drinking etc.

I didn't hear any mention of Turkey problems on AlJ but they are very tied up about the journalist that was shot and subsequent problems when she was taken to be buried.

Urban it seems is thinking of using a veto on something the EU is introducing. Not sure but it appears to be in the Russian fuels area even though he has an exemption.

Russia is very definitely moving away from Kharkiv. I think that was a town that did have Russian support - Putin will have fixed that.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Apparently there will be serious Russian ??

measures taken due to Finland joining Nato ???

The threat to Finland if they join is less electricity - they get a proportion from Russia. 10% was mentioned. Accurate? - pass.

Russia has already said they are cutting them off from the leccy

finns don’t seem all that concerned

They threatened to cut off the electricity at 1am this morning - but didn't

 

[ajohn]

They threatened to cut off the electricity at 1am this morning - but didn't

There was a report that Putin said it was going off as they hadn't paid for it. Ridiculed by a Finn on AlJ. Putin has also said there will be military implications if they do join. Polytalk. could mean all sorts. It takes a while to join anyway - even to agree to. 70% of Finns want to join so that shouldn't be a problem.

The man from Turkey hasn't said that he will block this. Just that he is troubled. Mention of Scandinavian politicians involved with Kurds some how or the other. An ex NATO policy man thinks it may be a manoeuvrer concerning Turkey's involvement with the Black Sea area.

I can't find anything on Ukraine raising a 1,000,000 or even 500,000 army other than a mention in one of Justin's videos.

More NATO moving in gives Putin more Miss Info to use. Many politicians have affairs with Miss Info even here. Some may F us up.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

More NATO moving in gives Putin more Miss Info to use.

NATO isn't moving in - these countries want to join of their own free will, and Putin has no right to a say in the matter. Full stop. In any case, Putin doesn't need any more to continue with his BS - he's already more full of fantasy than a bricky on E with whisky chasers on a Friday night

 

[ajohn]

join of their own free will,

You missed this then?

It takes a while to join anyway - even to agree to. 70% of Finns want to join so that shouldn't be a problem.

So why be pedantic. Pointless comment and Putin will make use of it if he can and nothing can done about that by you me or any one else at the moment.