They Shoot Horses, don't they?

[carmanmemoranda]

That would explain the large labour majority in Parliament then.lol.

Just like it did previously with the Tory majority.

Ignore the rosette colours, do you think the public generally is well informed ?

 

[Vinty]

Whatever language you use the killing of born and unborn is now legal. The argument is essentially that the state shouldn’t interfere with the exercise of personal morality, so it can only be a matter of time before the law extends to children and the mentally incapacitated

It's already happening, children with disabilities can be aborted up to full term.
This disrespect for the vulnerable has a corrosive effect on society.
You can see it play out everywhere.
People stabbed to death for a phone or a watch.
Kids stabbing other kids.
Prisons full of drugs supplied by corrupt warders.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You are into semantics now.
Killing an unborn child because it isn't wanted is also birth control.

There's way more to it than that, and you know it, even if you don't or won't admit it.

Lots of examples, such as rape, or incest etc where options should be available, for the WOMAN involved to choose.

What right do you have, or anybody else, to decide what's right for somebody else

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Whatever language you use the killing of born and unborn is now legal. The argument is essentially that the state shouldn’t interfere with the exercise of personal morality, so it can only be a matter of time before the law extends to children and the mentally incapacitated

Where else has that happened with assisted dying ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It's already happening, children with disabilities can be aborted up to full term.
This disrespect for the vulnerable has a corrosive effect on society.
You can see it play out everywhere.
People stabbed to death for a phone or a watch.
Kids stabbing other kids.
Prisons full of drugs supplied by corrupt warders.

None of that has anything to do with abortion.

False equivalence

 

[Vinty]

Just like it did previously with the Tory majority.

Ignore the rosette colours, do you think the public generally is well informed ?

Maybe they don't want to be better informed.
Reality might cause a collective nervous breakdown amongst the general public.
They seem to prefer platitudes and easy answers from bullshiting politicians of all persuasions.
Bread and Circuses along with lots of shiny stuff keeps them occupied.
Any problems, overcrowded jails?criminals.. Just let them out, or better still, don't send them to jail in the first place,
Problem solved.
Illegal drug problem? Legalise them, problem solved.
Illegal immigration, reclassify it as 'irregular' migration, problem solved.

 

[Vinty]

None of that has anything to do with abortion.

False equivalence

Nothing false about it.
Just people looking for easy answers.
It's a have your cake and eat it mentality, rather than take responsibility for their actions, they are always looking for an easy way out.

 

[blup]

Where else has that happened with assisted dying ?

This is Britain, death has been made a lifestyle choice, people will come to see it as normal behaviour and pressures on the nhs will create opportunities for the private sector. It will inevitably be extended. Whats the difference between a suicidal individual and a suicidal individual with terminal cancer?

 

[Vinty]

Lots of examples, such as rape, or incest etc where options should be available, for the WOMAN involved to choose.

Didn't take long for the straw men (or maybe it should be strawperson) to appear.
Vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with rape or incest.

 

[ellal]

You are into semantics now.
Killing an unborn child because it isn't wanted is also birth control.

Someone has a problem with legal definitions because someone doesn't agree with said definitions...

But then crazy 'pro lifers' tend to believe in not allowing a woman to be in control of her own body...

I may have asked this question before, but have you or anyone you know harassed woman outside abortion clinics?

 

[ajohn]

Whats the difference between a suicidal individual and a suicidal individual with terminal cancer?

Pain in some cases and side issues that can crop up if the cancer spreads.

 

[Vinty]

I may have asked this question before, but have you or anyone you know harassed woman outside abortion clinics?

I have better things to do with my time.
Although I wouldn't condone these type of protests, I wouldn't condemn them either.
I am neutral on this issue.

 

[blup]

Pain in some cases and side issues that can crop up if the cancer spreads.

What right has society to criminalise some forms of suicide and encourage or assist others?

 

[denso13]

What right has society to criminalise some forms of suicide and encourage or assist others?

Society has the right to do whatever it wants, through its elected representatives.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Maybe they don't want to be better informed.
Reality might cause a collective nervous breakdown amongst the general public.
They seem to prefer platitudes and easy answers from bullshiting politicians of all persuasions.
Bread and Circuses along with lots of shiny stuff keeps them occupied.
Any problems, overcrowded jails?criminals.. Just let them out, or better still, don't send them to jail in the first place,
Problem solved.
Illegal drug problem? Legalise them, problem solved.
Illegal immigration, reclassify it as 'irregular' migration, problem solved.

Well I got your thoughts, but you didnt say whether you thought the electorate was well informed or not