Trouble at mill.

[Pat ex]

It is recorded.

Not assigned

Your flippant use of "bext guess" is disparaging.

Of course it's recorded, but it has to be assigned first.
Would you prefer the word 'allocate'?

In cases of genital defects, "best guess" is an appropriate description.

For example, a female infant can have external sex organs that resemble male genitals but have typical internal female organs -- ovaries and a uterus.

 

[JohnD]

The use of "assigned" is popular among campaigners who wish to create the idea that "sex" is not a fact.

Which it is.

 

[Pat ex]

You don't know where I get all my information from you troll in training.

That'll be because you refuse to disclose your sources.

 

[Pat ex]

The use of "assigned" is popular among campaigners who wish to create the idea that "sex" is not a fact.

Which it is.

Describe in your own words how the sex of a child is decided, and allocated, when it is born.

 

[JohnD]

Some campaigners avoid the term "biological sex" and like to use the term "assigned sex" to help create the idea that "sex" is not a fact

Which it is.

 

[Pat ex]

Describe in your own words how the sex of a child is decided, and allocated, when it is born.

Too difficult for you?
So you trot out your own propaganda?

Some campaigners avoid the term "biological sex" and like to use the term "assigned sex" to help create the idea that "sex" is not a fact

Which it is.

I'll ask again: "Describe in your own words how the sex of a child is decided, and allocated, when it is born. "
"

 

[Stivino]

I'll ask again: "Describe in your own words how the sex of a child is decided, and allocated, when it is born.

The answer to that question lies in my last post No65.

 

[Pat ex]

Some campaigners avoid the term "biological sex" and like to use the term "assigned sex" to help create the idea that "sex" is not a fact

Sex assignment (sometimes known as gender assignment) is the discernment of an infant's sex at or before birth.
A relative, midwife, nurse or physician inspects the external genitalia when the baby is delivered and, in more than 99.95% of births, sex is assigned without ambiguity.

Sex assignment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

JohnD, any comments?
Of course sensible comments are also welcome from anyone else.

 

[Pat ex]

The answer to that question lies in my last post No65.

If intelligent discussions about sensitive issues like sex, is too difficult for you, it's best you don't attempt it..

 

[Odds]

If intelligent discussions about sensitive issues like sex, is too difficult for you, it's best you don't attempt it..

In this discussion it's best to stick to a clearly defined term.
Sex is...
And gender is...
The one does not indicate the other, in this case.

 

[Pat ex]

In this discussion it's best to stick to a clearly defined term.
Sex is...
And gender is...
The one does not indicate the other, in this case.

I could agree, except that some definitions are too simplistic.
For instance, the definition of sex - "either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions".
does not take into account the problems of ambiguity.
And therefore, the assignment of sex is often a poor choice between two options. There is no "undecided" option, nor a "wait and see" option.
In nearly all other walks of life, we explore all the options, but in the assignment of sex, the choice is too limited, the decision often left to a simple visual inspection, and time constrained.

For instance, in politics we aren't constrained by a choice of just two options, in a choice of holidays we have a whole range of options, in a choice of cars we're spoiled for choice.
But in the choice of a sex of a newly born infant, we're constrained by the choice of two options, and we're required to make that choice within a short period of time.

 

[Odds]

I could agree, except that some definitions are too simplistic.
For instance, the definition of sex - "either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions".
does not take into account the problems of ambiguity.
And therefore, the assignment of sex is often a poor choice between two options. There is no "undecided" option, nor a "wait and see" option.
In nearly all other walks of life, we explore all the options, but in the assignment of sex, the choice is too limited, the decision often left to a simple visual inspection, and time constrained.

For instance, in politics we aren't constrained by a choice of just two options, in a choice of holidays we have a whole range of options, in a choice of cars we're spoiled for choice.
But in the choice of a sex of a newly born infant, we're constrained by the choice of two options, and we're required to make that choice within a short period of time.

Take it up with Medicalnewstoday.com in that case.

 

[Pat ex]

Take it up with Medicalnewstoday.com in that case.

They may have it well under control already.
Their concepts of sex and gender are similar to mine, and they already recognise that sex can be ambiguous.

 

[gant]

They may have it well under control already.
Their concepts of sex and gender are similar to mine, and they already recognise that sex can be ambiguous.

Well why didn't post the link then, it would have saved you sniping and sneering at posters. Then again you seem to get a buzz doing the show pony act.

 

[Odds]

They may have it well under control already.
Their concepts of sex and gender are similar to mine, and they already recognise that sex can be ambiguous.

You mean gender can be ambiguous. Sex is assigned at birth according to genitalia.