Trump Re Ukraine

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So you don't agree to any peace talks whatsoever?
here are the "peace talks" you mention:

Trump "so Vlad, we are removing all support for Ukraine, whats your next step"?

Putin: "ah thank you, Ive won then, here is my list of demands........"


and you think thats a peace talk :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Trump supporters: ficker than the fickest mince
 
Its nice to see UK is not surrendering to Putin unlike Trump



The United Kingdom has begun supplying Ukraine with the Gravehawk, a newly developed air defense system designed to integrate Soviet-era missiles into a modern, ground-based platform that is disguised as a common shipping container … According to the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD), two Gravehawk units have already been shipped to Ukraine and are in active use, with 15 more scheduled for delivery throughout the year … ‘The system can use Ukrainian missiles to shoot down Russian missiles and drones. It can complement Ukraine’s existing air defense system, which includes anti-aircraft guns,’ a British Ministry of Defence spokesperson said in Brussels.”

 
Here's one: Zellenski doesn't need to be in the room when Pootin and Trumpf are carving up his country in the name of a peace settlement.
it cant be a peace settlement without one side at the table
 
Here's one: Zellenski doesn't need to be in the room when Pootin and Trumpf are carving up his country in the name of a peace settlement.
Nowt to do with me.

You expect to be taken seriously and yet you intentionally misspell names.

Jog on.
 
Somebody raised an interesting point a couple of pages back, which was if Ukraine rule out joining NATO, will Russia withdraw? It had never actually occurred to me that there might be such a simple solution. But when you think a bit more, it is totally logical.
 
Somebody raised an interesting point a couple of pages back, which was if Ukraine rule out joining NATO, will Russia withdraw? It had never actually occurred to me that there might be such a simple solution. But when you think a bit more, it is totally logical.
You mean this...
So what you are saying is that if Ukraine gives assurances that they will not join NATO, Russia will pull out all of their invading troops?
The poo tin trolls don't have an answer to this. They believe poo tin has the right to invade another country, slaughter their inhabitants, steal their land and whilst the country is vulnerable, allow another foreign nation to plunder their resources.
 
You mean this...

The poo tin trolls don't have an answer to this. They believe poo tin has the right to invade another country, slaughter their inhabitants, steal their land and whilst the country is vulnerable, allow another foreign nation to plunder their resources.
Lirefighter, Vinty, ., Highwayman etc etc all claim that Putin was forced to invade because Ukraine wanted to join NATO to defend itself against............Putin invading

framing Putin as the victim is just pure propaganda
 
I know I am running the risk of upsetting some posters. But I have to say that I don't actually trust Putin.

I doubt anyone on here 'trusts' Putin, or Trump to a degree, I have some faith that Trump is capable of obtaining some cast iron guarantees from Russia re Ukraine going forward, certainly more faith than I would have in any of our European leaders.
 
Somebody raised an interesting point a couple of pages back, which was if Ukraine rule out joining NATO, will Russia withdraw? It had never actually occurred to me that there might be such a simple solution. But when you think a bit more, it is totally logical.
They won't. Russia have said they won't give up the occupied lands and have demanded both additional land and Ukraine to essentially eliminate their armed forces.

Also that relies on trust far too much.
 
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