Two Tier Keir Strikes Again

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You fundamentally misunderstand the nature of forum threads, they are not exam questions, or a meeting of the sentencing council with minutes and agenda items. JD would disapprove
Do I. Perhaps you could explain to me what premium bonds have to do with sentencing guidelines.
 
I think you fundamentally misunderstand the meaning of off topic. And also the importance of manners.
Sometimes (rarely) a thread is a well lit single carriage road, sometimes it's spaghetti junction.
 
Keeping up the high standards of the forum
 
so did some one else type this for you on 2nd of Feb then


"I might just stick money in premium bonds for a while as Trump is gonna cause market volatility for a while.............I think? - Im no market expert"

Stick not keep
I didn’t say when I would stick them in.

Poor gas, getting himself all upset :giggle:
 
Yes and I am massively fooked off.
You started a thread thinking you had made a winning point against Labour.

But as always you read something that supported your bias: the lying Telegraph and Dishonest Bob and you never researched the facts.

So you are fooled off because you thought you were being clever….but you weren’t, just plain wrong instead.
 
You started a thread thinking you had made a winning point against Labour.

But as always you read something that supported your bias: the lying Telegraph and Dishonest Bob and you never researched the facts.

So you are fooled off because you thought you were being clever….but you weren’t, just plain wrong instead.
The first mistake you made when thinking about what I think, is thinking I care.
 

'Guidelines suggesting that people from ethnic minorities should get softer sentences were drawn up on the back of recommendations by David Lammy, The Times can disclose.'

'The council said that the changes had been influenced by several sources of research, including a review carried out in 2017 by Lammy, now the foreign secretary. The review found widespread racial discrimination in the criminal justice system and recommended changes to improve outcomes for black, Asian and minority ethnic offenders.

'Lammy wrote: “These reports ‘assist the court in determining the most suitable method of dealing with an offender’ and may be particularly important for shedding light on individuals from backgrounds unfamiliar to the judge.'

“This is vital considering the gap between the difference in backgrounds, both in social class and ethnicity, between the magistrates, judges and many of those offenders who come before them.”

'The council said that a pre-sentencing report could be “pivotal in helping the court decide whether to impose a custodial or community order and, where relevant, what particular requirements or combination of requirements are most suitable for an individual offender on either a community order or a suspended custodial sentence.”

'The council went ahead with the changes despite being told by magistrates during a consultation on the reforms that the guidance was “biased and conflicts with equality in sentencing”.

'Another source of information that influenced the Sentencing Council’s update was a report by the chief inspector of probation in 2021 that found members of ethnic minorities were given “more punitive sentences” owing to poorer pre-sentencing reports that failed to consider “all relevant factors”.

'Jenrick said: “Labour’s fingerprints are all over this two-tier sentencing guidance. Lammy’s report failed to establish conclusive evidence of direct discrimination in sentencing decisions. Now it’s being used to justify abandoning the foundational principle of equal treatment under the law.”

'While the decisions and operations of the Sentencing Council are independent of government, half of its members are appointed directly by the justice secretary and the others must receive her approval.'

'Lammy has not responded to a request for comment.'
 
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