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So what? We know they don't look very good, but they're winning for now, aren't they?
Captious trolling again.
"usw" - you switching to German now?
Ukraine counter offensive
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Captious trolling again.
"usw" - you switching to German now?
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I just don't accept your over simplified version of using them these days due to the more modern methods of wrecking them.
Zelenskyy appears to want the other weapon to make the WWII use possible. Aircraft. That comes first, then artillery then tanks and troops. Tanks to get at people "hiding" in places that bullets can't easily get at. Footage has been shown of Russia doing similar with tanks but it appeared to be at a distance. It didn't work out well.
Ukraine footage shows them firing over a rise. A reporter there but they don't show them what is over the rise. Ukraine then mentions that they fire a few and move to avoid retaliation. That aspect has cropped up with other weaponry.
There is an account of WWII tank and other warfare here - conclusion artillery and anti tank defences were important. British report near the end.
Epic battle that became a slaughterhouse of tanks
Eighty years on from the battle that decisively pushed the Nazis back from the eastern front, German panzers are about to meet a new generation of Russian tanks.
Not sure what to make of the Terminator. Russia have said it's worked well in use but they would wouldn't they.
The USA does seem to have a round aimed at interfering with soldiers with anti tank missiles
Forbs say it extends anti personel rounds range from 500 to 2,000m and makes much bigger holes. Russia appears to have some sort of folding long range round to fit an autoloader. Not much info.
That's true. The Russian withdrawals have their bad points for Ukraine too. Behind water is a pretty obvious one. The other. Was it because they were trying to hold too much. Capturing a large city without mostly destroying it can't be easy, This war appears to be mostly urban.
Wagner man is clearly playing politics. That may help Ukraine but one way of looking at some comments from all is that they are prepared to carry on for ever. The USA wont be happy about some one offering a rent an army. Seems some lot or the other in Africa fancy the idea..
Kyiv - intent to totally capture or a wasteful attempt at something else. Talks that didn't change anything. An initial threat really.
If Russia has cut oil production does it leave them enough sales? Will it change oil prices after they have semi settled down. There were lots of doubts about the oil cap price achieving anything significant as countries need the stuff and could get round it. Some wanted it lower. It could turn into a way of letting them back in to the market. If less than what the Arab states want that would be interesting.
Announced in February 2023 was a reduction in production of 5% (500,000 b/d) as a response to the price caps.
More here
2022 Russian oil price cap - Wikipedia
Once Russia has Ukraine it will continue further in Europe. Really? Seems some of E Europe has boosted the size of it's army.
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Tanks are currently useful as mobile artillery because the anti-tank devices aren't quite good or numerous enough .
Surely though the writing's on the wall for quite a lot of current military assets, including planes and tanks - too easy to shoot down with something relatively cheap. Current video clips are showing tactics almost back at WW1 where a pilot would drop a handheld bomb over the side on johnny foreigner.
The advantage is massively with the anti-tank and anti-aircraft missile designers as long as humans are in the target.
Ultimately you can't make a tank or plane invisible enough or fast enough; or for a tank, armour strong enough.
"Intelligent" drones will take over. Too cheap, smart, small and fast. And too many.
Surely though the writing's on the wall for quite a lot of current military assets, including planes and tanks - too easy to shoot down with something relatively cheap. Current video clips are showing tactics almost back at WW1 where a pilot would drop a handheld bomb over the side on johnny foreigner.
The advantage is massively with the anti-tank and anti-aircraft missile designers as long as humans are in the target.
Ultimately you can't make a tank or plane invisible enough or fast enough; or for a tank, armour strong enough.
"Intelligent" drones will take over. Too cheap, smart, small and fast. And too many.
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a reliable news source, well respected.
Why would I mention cutting oil output? it is a strategic response to another EU cap. It's effect is simple to raise prices as cuts always do
Are you suggesting that cutting back on oil output is a result of sanctions?
Read the article again, where does it use the term dramatic falls in revenue as compared before the invasion. You seem to have these the wrong way round. Revenues are up for oil and oil derivatives, NG is down because the blew the bloody pipline up
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will you take my bet then?
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Another Russian bot on the go
Yeah
It didn't mention that they were down? Wow, perhaps that source isn't a fair an balanced take after all.
Even if Russia does manage to conquer Ukraine, there's no way to subdue a population determined to have autonomy over their own future.
The Western nations will not allow Russia to settle into its old ways without further sanctions and any efforts to rebuild a shatered economy will break the Russian economy into pieces.
It's become a lose-lose scenario for Putin.
The Western nations will not allow Russia to settle into its old ways without further sanctions and any efforts to rebuild a shatered economy will break the Russian economy into pieces.
It's become a lose-lose scenario for Putin.
"In January, Russia’s government revenues from oil and gas were down by 46 per cent year on year, contributing to a fast-growing budget deficit that reached $25bn for the month as the Kremlin boosts defence spending."
https://www.ft.com/content/dc898690-653a-47f1-af56-b0216abd7dcd
https://www.ft.com/content/dc898690-653a-47f1-af56-b0216abd7dcd
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