Anything the Germans say?
Ukraine counter offensive
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Anything the Germans say?
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A study based on open source inventories and docs found that western countries hold
10,141 main battle tanks
A figure that rises to 17,000 when older or recently decommissioned armoured vehicles are included
So far (?) between 125 and 157 of the most advanced tanks (?) have been formally offered to Ukraine
14 challenger pledged by the UK
Same number of leapord 11s from Berlin next month ?
31 abrams although delivery is expected to be months away
Other pledges have come from countries including Poland
Norway
Finland
Holland
And Canada
???
10,141 main battle tanks
A figure that rises to 17,000 when older or recently decommissioned armoured vehicles are included
So far (?) between 125 and 157 of the most advanced tanks (?) have been formally offered to Ukraine
14 challenger pledged by the UK
Same number of leapord 11s from Berlin next month ?
31 abrams although delivery is expected to be months away
Other pledges have come from countries including Poland
Norway
Finland
Holland
And Canada
???
You need to get over your inferiority complex boyo.
The elephant in the room in all this is the nuklear threat, if puitin starts losing badly what are his nuklear options and will he use them. Is that threat the reason th3 west is treading carefully on sending him playnes.
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The Chinese would certainly warn him against such drastic action and counsel the NATO allies regarding an invasion of Crimea: Turkey has hosted negotiations in the past 12 months but the Chinese are playing an increasingly hands-on role. If NATO gets deeper into arms supply for Ukraine i wonder if China would redress the balance with arms supply to Russia.
As I have said before, I believe there are intelligent personnel managing their nuclear 'keys' and would not press them just because the Ukrainian war is being lost with no threat being posed on the Russian state. There are well documented incidents where Russians came close to launching when a bright spark thought to double check......only to find it was a false alarm
The president's security detail must have freaked when the call was made. Usually they attend several days in advance to check security
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That must include USA, which is seriously dragging its feet.
Holland has refused to send tanks.
Poland has sent ~200 older T72s so not very advanced, and the other elephant lurking, they might need their better tanks themselves.
Table of tank numbers here .
You're a long way down the list before you see active western countries.
I'm sure you're right, Yes and yes. Playnes would get shot down, too. Russia would wheel out the posh stuff specially.
A threat at least? There be dragons.
Fingers crossed.
Hurry up and wait.
Putin and his nuclear threats are all p*** And wind
He has been making threats or suggestions of nuclear war for a good while
Same as that fruit cake in North Korea
I suppose there are different kinds of nuclear threat, from the all out ICBMs then nuclear tipped misfiled that explode with minimal fallout through to destroying nuclear power plants.
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My opinion, for what it is worth, is that the western allies of Ukraine are less concerned about the nukes, and more concerned about solidifying support for Putin in his homeland.
Current strategy seems to be based on letting him slowly hang himself.
Current strategy seems to be based on letting him slowly hang himself.
Putin is playing the game of draining the West's resources whilst caring not a jot about how many of his cannon fodder is lost...
That's the Russian way...
He's an old man, and as the UK has also recently realised old folk don't seem to give a toss as to what happens to their country or it's people...
The sting in the tail will probably be the scorpion waiting patiently in the corner - China!
That's the Russian way...
He's an old man, and as the UK has also recently realised old folk don't seem to give a toss as to what happens to their country or it's people...
The sting in the tail will probably be the scorpion waiting patiently in the corner - China!
Which is why we need a united states of europe, it works in america. Lucky that Biden is there with a moral compass. Under the previous admin it might have been very different, just imagine what the trrump deal might have looked like.
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