VAT on education?

[Mottie]

Schools could be forced to close amid drop in pupils - think tank

Research suggests pupil numbers are projected to fall the most in areas like Lambeth and Lewisham.

www.bbc.co.uk

Do you think if Eton closed, they’d go there?

 

[Odds]

An interesting article in the Guardian reports that 'Teachers in England are being offered a range of incentives to make the job more appealing, including two free periods a week to give them a lie-in, a nine-day fortnight and more planning time at home to help with work-life balance.' As part of its manifesto commitment to recruit 6,500 new teachers, the government wants teachers to be able to do more planning at home to improve flexibility, but experts say the sector will have to go much further if it is to compete with other professions, including on pay. Schools up and down the country are already using their initiative to make the job more attractive. All Saints Catholic College, a state secondary school in west London, is giving every teacher a double period off one morning a week.

Shorter hours, fewer days, better pay - what's not to like?

 

[IT Minion]

Do you think if Eton closed, they’d go there?

Who gives a **** about Eton?

 

[Mottie]

Still posting in a thread you don’t really care about? Go on, admit it, you DO care.

 

[IT Minion]

Still posting in a thread you don’t really care about? Go on, admit it, you DO care.

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Learn to read troll boy. I don't really care what Eton students would do in the hypothetical scenario that applying VAT makes them drop out.

If you're just down to GIFs then you're clearly out of material again.

 

[Mottie]

Dunno, don't really care

Neither do I - about what you think.

 

[motorbiking]

I think the bit that new old new labour have missed, is that it doesn't take much of a drop in private education and shift to state funded education to entirely remove any net increase in tax revenue.

10M in state school
1/2 a million in private school.

 

[blup]

Education will still continue

Poor quality state school education will continue, that fails the really bright kids from poorer backgrounds. Specialist schools that cream off gifted kids would help

Just that those getting private education will have to pay vat on it.

And those that can no longer afford private education will move to state schools furthering the muddle headed notion of social mobility

We need the taxes. Unless anybody can state why the state should support private education.

Then increase direct taxes

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Poor quality state school education will continue, that fails the really bright kids from poorer backgrounds. Specialist schools that cream off gifted kids would help

That's always been the case. Private schools didn't change it

And those that can no longer afford private education will move to state schools furthering the muddle headed notion of social mobility

Think it will be many? I don't. These schools are business and will find a way to keep their income.

Then increase direct taxes

Vat on private education is a direct tax. Nobody HAS to pay it, but lots can afford to.

Don't feel too sorry for the Eton fees going up

 

[blup]

But it doesn't really save, it gives tax breaks etc away.

Two sided coin

It's a (vat) tax that nobody has to pay if they don't want to. If people want private education it's only right it should be taxed. Nobody is saying stop private education.

Its misleading to call it just a VAT tax rise. The economy and political agenda are steered by tax rises. Just as they are by the chancellor cynically taking account of benefits that people don't claim when calculating the tax bill.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Two sided coin

Its misleading to call it just a VAT tax rise. The economy and political agenda are steered by tax rises. Just as they are by the chancellor cynically taking account of benefits that people don't claim when calculating the tax bill.

You have your view, I have mine.

If people can afford and want private education it should be taxed, just like other luxury goods.

 

[blup]

That's always been the case. Private schools didn't change it

Private schools provide an alternative to a perceived poor state sector

Think it will be many? I don't. These schools are business and will find a way to keep their income.

State schools are run as businesses with almost no local authority involvement. Economic incentives are given to the best performing and those that seek academy status, there is inequality within the state sector

Vat on private education is a direct tax. Nobody HAS to pay it, but lots can afford to.

Don't feel too sorry for the Eton fees going up

Eton can defend itself but charity law changes on public benefit mean they take in kids from "deprived" backgrounds. HAS doesn't come into it, education is a fundamental right.

 

[blup]

You have your view, I have mine.

If people can afford and want private education it should be taxed, just like other luxury goods.

Education isn't a luxury, whether its learning to lay bricks, or doing further maths at A Level

 

[Odds]

I think the bit that new old new labour have missed, is that it doesn't take much of a drop in private education and shift to state funded education to entirely remove any net increase in tax revenue.

10M in state school
1/2 a million in private school.

How much money did those privately educated toffs at Eton and Oxbridge waste while in government?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Private schools provide an alternative to a perceived poor state sector

And if you can afford it, it's open to all. That isn't changing

State schools are run as businesses with almost no local authority involvement. Economic incentives are given to the best performing and those that seek academy status, there is inequality within the state sector

Private schools are charities, and need all the help they can get? Misguided view imo

Eton can defend itself but charity law changes on public benefit mean they take in kids from "deprived" backgrounds. HAS doesn't come into it, education is a fundamental right.

Education is still there for all.

Luxury education like all luxuries should pay vat. It's that simple