Vive La France!

[Notch7]

HSA1 and 2 etc is covered by separate legislation and there is no question that these are needed as part of the process of carrying out an abortion.

The legislation (not the abortion act) but the governing regulations give time limits for when the forms must be completed

So you spent many pages arguing form HSA1 was not an approval ( it is)

And now you are arguing it’s different legislation. (Which has no bearing on whether HSA1 is or not approval (it is)

 

[noseall]

You keep refusing to admit there are 2 meanings of approval

You keep refusing to answer what happens if doctors don’t sign the form

84. The Abortion Act 1967 requires that an abortion under ground A to E is certified by two doctors, who must each sign a Department of Health HSA 1 form to give notification that the abortion has been approved and on what grounds, and an HSA 4 form for information including patient details, the method of abortion and gestation time.

85. A range of explanations have been given for the introduction of the requirement for two doctors' signatures:

• to ensure that the provisions in the legislation were being observed ;[96]
• to protect women;[97]
• to protect doctors from breaking the law ;[98]
• to demonstrate the medico-legal concerns of Parliament, namely that the 1967 Act did not make abortion legal but conferred upon doctors a defence against illegality—the two doctors are expected to police each other; [99]
• to show the seriousness of the decision to terminate; [100]

The abortion (for it to proceed) requires their approval - end of.

 

[noseall]

So you spent many pages arguing form HSA1 was not an approval ( it is)

And now you are arguing it’s different legislation. (Which has no bearing on whether HSA1 is or not approval (it is)

I call it deflective waffle.

 

[Notch7]

There are time limits for completing the paperwork AFTER THE FACT

Poor Motorbiking, desperately trying one spurious argument after another.

That’s the second one this morning.

Oh dear, it must be getting chilly down that big hole you’ve dug.

 

[Odds]

If a woman can obtain abortion pills online she won't require any Doc's signature. Nor, Sleepy, Bashful or Dopey.

 

[Brigadier]

Explain how an abortion can lawfully go ahead without two doctors approval?

Emergency.

 

[Notch7]

If a woman can obtain abortion pills online she won't require any Doc's signature. Nor, Sleepy, Bashful or Dopey.

Illegally

If a country makes abortion illegal, it’s possible to just go to another country.

 

[fillyboy]

If a woman can obtain abortion pills online she won't require any Doc's signature. Nor, Sleepy, Bashful or Dopey.

6 out of 7 of them won't be Happy.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

The abortion can go ahead as long as the opinion is formed. I’ve said it dozens of times.

Here we go again.

And if they are not of that opinion, it cannot go ahead . You've admitted this before.

So no approval by the 2 doctors, no abortion.

Give up, it is embarrassing you badly.

 

[noseall]

If a woman can obtain abortion pills online she won't require any Doc's signature. Nor, Sleepy, Bashful or Dopey.

Waffle and irrelevant in terms of proceeding with a lawful abortion argument....I.e it requires the approval of two doctors, etc.

 

[blup]

Here we go again.

And if they are not of that opinion, it cannot go ahead . You've admitted this before.

So no approval by the 2 doctors, no abortion.

Give up, it is embarrassing you badly.

A form to be filled in can’t override legislation, parliament is supreme, as the brexxers found out when they tried to push through the referendum result without an Act. The wording is certify and opinion, not approval however you define that.

 

[Notch7]

The wording is certify and opinion, not approval however you define that

WRONG

The wording opinion is the judgement

Certify is approval.

It’s irrelevant that the actual word approval is not stated.

The reason it is not there is because approval has 2 meanings.

Signing the form is an act of approval.

 

[Odds]

Waffle and irrelevant in terms of proceeding with a lawful abortion argument....I.e it requires the approval of two doctors, etc.

witch doctors do you recommend?

 

[noseall]

A form to be filled in can’t override legislation, parliament is supreme, as the brexxers found out when they tried to push through the referendum result without an Act. The wording is certify and opinion, not approval however you define that.

Waffle.

 

[noseall]

witch doctors do you recommend?

I saw what you did there.