Clueless.
HSA1 form boyo...
Lets go over it again.. to see who is clueless and who has been educated..
You claim it was you who educated me about the Abortion Act. You quoted a snippet from your subscription to glamour magazine that was incomplete in #284
In #285 I provided you a link to the statute. I also provided you with the NHS guidance
In #286 You said I was wrong that the UK policy was more flexible than France. This is of course nonsense, because under French law a woman has 10 weeks less to request a legal abortion.
In #288 You said “enshrining the right of women to have an abortion into law, is pretty rock solid”. In #293 I asked you “What do you think the abortion act does. Do you think it enshrines the right of a woman to have an abortion?”
In #296 You defended your Glamour Magazine article over my link to the Abortion Act.
In #297 Your reply to the question “What do you think the abortion act does. Do you think it enshrines the right of a woman to have an abortion?” My Arse
In #298 I asked again why we should adopt the French approach.
In #301 you stated that you were possibly in favour of reducing the time limit in the UK
In #304 You said you wanted it simpler and more flexible, No silly Laws to trip people up (I refer you to your post in #288). So now you want the right not to be enshrined in law?
In #306 “Glad were on the same page as the French, in many respects. Free abortions etc. “ It seems this was the point that you became aware that abortions were down to choice and free in the UK, “just like France”. Which I went on to point out is not completely true.
In #309 You asserted it was Free in France, despite me explaining the Insurance system which may not cover all aspects.
In #310 trying to keep it simple for you I said “More time to choose, no possibility of a bill.” which is better than in France.
Then you started digging your heals in about it being better in France. Even though they can incur bills, have less time to choose and may not have all aspects of the procedure and complications covered by insurance. We then had several pages where you appeared to accept we had everything you wanted and went back to insulting people - save for a reduction in time to choose to make it “simpler and more flexible”. I still dont understand how having the risk of a bill and less time to choose is simpler and more flexible. But it’s what you want.
In #400 You issued you 5 commandments of Abortion. Feeling a bit sorry for hounding your thinking, I didn’t point out that these are entirely provided for in the UK system and would be less provided for if we adopted the amendments you want to make… to make it more flexible by adopting a regime that has less time to choose and may not be entirely free.
In #408 You stated a different view.
In #416 I asked you if you had changed your mind.
In #425 you went back to abuse, perhaps because you’d realised that you started a threat to champion a regime that was not as good as the one we already had in place.
In #428 You reiterated that you thought Abortion was free in France. But I’ve already shown you that is not always true.
In #432 you challenged my statement that a woman can self refer and stated a Woman must have approval from 2 doctors to avoid prosecution. In fact the abortion act states no such thing.. but you went on.
In #434 You posted from an unknown source that A woman must have the approval from 2 doctors. In fact they simply sign-off their assessment against the legal criteria. They have no role to be judge
In #438 You claimed you did not dispute the fact that its the woman’s choice and then restated your unknown source.
Again you want the UK system to be simpler but can’t state why. You focused on Doctors approval (it is actually an assessment, not an approval). You then said you don’t want the doctors assessment to be removed. Again what is it you want to simplify?
In #457 you said “in the UK, women require the prior approval of two doctors for an abortion.” This is not true, the role of the doctor is to assess the criteria and record that the abortion is legal. I did provide you with the Legal text in 285. But you want to rely on Glamour magazine and some unknown source.
In #462 You did a load of research and misquoted some legislation, probably due to cut and paste errors so I’ll let you off. It was good to see you do some homework.
For the most recent posts you argued you knew this all along and it was you that had educated me on the law. I refer you back to the links in #285.
In #480 you finally seemed to understand that the woman requesting an abortion is not subject to seeking approval from 2 doctors. Merely they must carry out an assessment and sign off on the risks and lawfulness.
No doubt you will claim this is tireless waffle, but in fact it is a transcript of your "knowledge" on the subject.
But Jeez it's been hard getting you there.
Are you now happy with the UK regime as it stands?
You silly sod, now you arguing a form that records information trumps the abortion act?
