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[motorbiking]

nonsense

You are just making it up

 

[motorbiking]

It matters not to whom ever it applies. As long as the woman knows she needs authorisation from two doctors for the abortion to be legal. MBK just did not know the law on this and is why he is furiously back-peddling now with childish semantics.

she doesn't need their approval - if she did - it would say so in the act.

 

[motorbiking]

What about the word "authorise" rather than "approve".

From an abortion act point of view. they are only required to form an opinion in good faith, that the criteria is met. With a pregancy of 24 weeks or less and simply not wanting it, it's enough providing the risk of abortion is not greater than giving birth. All things being equal, giving berth at full term carries more risk than abortion.

There may of course be other requirements related to the procedure as with any medical procedure.

But this is specifically about the protection form The offences against the person act that both the doctor (and his/her team) and the woman need.

 

[noseall]

blah blah blah...irrelevant waffle

blah blah blah...irrelevant waffle

It is illegal to perform an abortion in the UK, without the authorisation of two doctors. The abortion is approved once the HSA1 form has been filled in correctly, dated and signed.

None of your squirming, back-peddling or pedantry will change this.

 

[noseall]

So you think a woman asks for an abortion because she doesn’t want to be a mum and two doctors assess her to decide if that’s a valid reason ?

Their assessment is entirely limited to the risks of the procedure and to determine if the pregnancy is beyond 24 weeks.

I’ve shown you the guidelines, the actual law (not glamour magazines version) and the NHS web page. None of it says you seek approval for the abortion and 2 doctors asses if your reason is valid. Their scope is entirely limited to the risk of the procedure, the time limit. and they are duty bound to act in good faith.

Clueless.

 

[motorbiking]

It is illegal to perform an abortion in the UK, without the authorisation of two doctors. The abortion is approved once the HSA1 form has been filled in correctly, dated and signed.

None of your squirming, back-peddling or pedantry will change this.

nonsense - it would say so in the act.

 

[motorbiking]

Clueless.

entirely factual and correct.

give it up - fool

 

[noseall]

she doesn't need their approval - if she did - it would say so in the act.

Go to number 11 and get a grown up to read it to you.

 

[motorbiking]

Search for the word approval - its no where other than relating to approved locations.

Want to keep going? maybe read the actual law. or would you like me to explain it to you again..

what a dumbar*se

 

[noseall]

nonsense - it would say so in the act.

2 Regulation 3(2) Abortion Regulations 1991 S.I. 1991/499 (referenced from the end of paragraph heading 3)

3.—(1) Any opinion to which section 1 of the Act refers shall be certified—
(a)in the case of a pregnancy terminated in accordance with section 1(1) of the Act, in the form set out in Part I of Schedule 1 to these Regulations, and
(b)in the case of a pregnancy terminated in accordance with section 1(4) of the Act, in the form set out in Part II of that Schedule.
(2) Any certificate of an opinion referred to in section 1(1) of the Act shall be given before the commencement of the treatment for the termination of the pregnancy to which it relates.
(3) Any certificate of an opinion referred to in section 1(4) of the Act shall be given before the commencement of the treatment for the termination of the pregnancy to which it relates or, if that is not reasonably practicable, not later than 24 hours after such termination.
(4) Any such certificate as is referred to in paragraphs (2) and (3) of this regulation shall be preserved by the practitioner who terminated the pregnancy to which it relates for a period of not less than three years beginning with the date of the termination.
(5) A certificate which is no longer to be preserved shall be destroyed by the person in whose custody it then is.

 

[noseall]

Search for the word approval

Lol.

 

[motorbiking]

Lovely - where does it say they have to approve.. oh wait it doesn't because they don't.

Find me one piece of legislation that says a request for an abortion is subject to the approval of 2 doctors.

 

[noseall]

From an abortion act point of view. they are only required to form an opinion in good faith, that the criteria is met.

And fill in, sign and date a HSA1 form, before the abortion is approved. Didn't you know?

Seriously, did you not know about the HSA1 form?

 

[noseall]

Lovely - where does it say they have to approve..

What would you call it when the two doctors have signed and dated the HSA1 form then?

Authorisation?

Regardless - it is just as illegal to perform an abortion without [add your own word] from two doctors. No amount of sematics will change this.

 

[denso13]

they are only required to form an opinion in good faith, that the criteria is met

And if their opinion is that the criteria aren't met?