WARNING = Highway Code Changes - A disaster in the making

Okay I'm stating the obvious, one of the main reasons changes like this cause and create issues is due to the sheer amount of drivers on the road that are poor drivers, whether that means lack of spatial awareness and/or impatient and/or being quite happy to break the law.

Before you ask in a sarcastic manner, no, I'm not a perfect driver nor would I profess to be. However what I can say with absolute certainty is the amount of impatient on the roads is increasing. Drivers darting around in built up areas, glaring at you and/or tailgating you if you dare to drive near never mind on the speed limit. Slow down to turn into another street?!? How dare you!!! Drive at 30 in a 30 zone?!? How dare you!!! Pull out at a roundabout that I'm driving around like a rally driver thus impeding my progress?!? How dare you!!!

I have absolutely no issue adhering to rule changes like this, what I have issue with is my stress levels being challenged by the tw*ts driving behind me that do not have patience in their vocabulary. The ones that really crack me up are those that give you 'the stare' because you slowed down to enter another street. Do they expect you to defy the laws of physics and take the 90 degree turn at 30-40 mph?

I've said it before, if everyone just slowed down a bit, much of the issues raised in this thread simply wouldn't arise.

Many are also complete hypocrites when it comes to driving. How many do 30+ in a 20 zone? Try driving at 20 in a 20 zone, you're almost guaranteed to have a tailback behind you. However, I wonder how those that feel it's acceptable to do 30 in a 20 would feel if one of their nearest/dearest was killed by someone driving at excessive speed in a 20 zone? Would they say 'a well, I do it, so I have no anger towards the driver and hope they face no consequences.'

You are a great driver just like me, thanks
 
Sponsored Links
Exactly that.
As per my OP, I at times may lightly/polite tap on my 4x4 horn to make aware the pedestrians approach the kerb at full speed not being aware of their environment/etc in the hope they wake up to what is around them this can also apply to me turning right ie the horn tap.

New rules, you have to give way to them even if they are not in the road BUT LEFT TURN ONLY. The possibilities of the impatient clowns driving into the backside are great.

WARNING: The above refers to vehicles turning left only and left side of the pavement NOT the right side or you turning RIGHT



Good practice and proper use of the horn! I also tap my horn on the approach if it looks like the ped isn't going to do a shoulder check (I only have a standard horn, not a 4x4 horn though...)

I don't think the rule change will have any real effect on reality, though. Most drivers I've encountered as a ped feel they 'have right of way' over anything else on the road.
 
Good practice and proper use of the horn! I also tap my horn on the approach if it looks like the ped isn't going to do a shoulder check (I only have a standard horn, not a 4x4 horn though...)

I don't think the rule change will have any real effect on reality, though. Most drivers I've encountered as a ped feel they 'have right of way' over anything else on the road.

Thank you for your kind words, appreciated.

I believe things will definitely change as I see pushbike riders, ie those at the forefront of rights for bike riders testing out these new rules to the letter.
Drivers like me/us being aware of the new rules now stopping at left turn as per new rules.

Re pushbike rider they need to wear high-vis, helmets, some form of identification on their backs/bikes, proper lights and a bell and ideally insurance but its not going to happen and the car drivers will almost certainly always get blamed for any incident.
 
Someone mentioned riding bikes, in the centre of lanes and how much this would annoy drivers. Near where I live, there is a narrow bridge - just wide enough for one lane at a time and often quite busy and no useable path across. It isn't really sensible for the cyclist to be overtaken whilst on the bridge, but some would try to.

When the lad had just learned to ride a bike, going over the bridge he would be terrified by drivers trying to force their way past him on the bridge. I advised him to take his time, ride in the middle and just ignore any drivers trying to bully him. Not to pull in to the left until he was clear of the bridge.
 
Sponsored Links
A lot of drivers will assume they have right of way in the side road or even the entrance/exit to a petrol station over pedestrians. There is a critique in the guardian, but of course they go they other way. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-about-what-uk-highway-code-changes-will-mean

The reality is encouraging cyclists to..

the Highway Code simply says cyclists should use the centre of the lane, and even then only at certain times, for example approaching junctions or on narrow sections of roads, where a car overtaking would cause danger. This is a change to the code, but it’s not new, or even new guidance. Cyclists have been formally advised for years to take what is known as the “primary position” at such moments.

Will cause real problems:
1. Nobody should block someone overtaking them on a bicycle, motorcycle or even car. If it's a dangerous situation and the overtake will mean they are likely to hit you, then your primary plan should be to be ready to stop.
2. The guy who wrote it in cycle craft, basically tried to adapt the Police Roadcraft system to Cycling. One big difference went un-noticed. Motorcyclists have a throttle and can accelerate out of the way. Cyclists are usually always travelling slower than everyone else. This advice will cause conflict.
 
The give way to pedestrians crossing at a junction part was in the Highway Code when I did my bike test about 17 years ago.

Nobody knew about it then either.

In short - drive sensibly, don't run people over, respect all other road users, whether they are using a car, lorry, mobility scooter, bike or horse etc.
 
The give way to pedestrians crossing at a junction part was in the Highway Code when I did my bike test about 17 years ago.

Nobody knew about it then either.


.

Can you post the link/bit from the highway code you refer to and then I will compare it to the new one coming into play, Saturday.

You've clearly misunderstood the rules and once you post or won't post the link/etc as it does not exist as per your post, you'll notice you were wrong.

It's a bit like about 80% of the fools turning first left on roundabout not being arsed to indicating and in return slowing down traffic. People like that should be fined.
 
Part of the problem, a big part, is old infrastructure that was never designed for the way it's now being used. And because surrounding space is often restricted, when changes are made e.g. introduction of cycle lane, it can restrict other things e.g. lane width.

Although I've not been commuting recently, my usual commute includes using 6-7 miles of busy A road with lanes that aren't overly wide, with no dedicated cycle lanes. Sometimes there would be a tailback of 20+ vehicles having to trundle along at <20mph. The hold up would sometimes be someone on a bicycle with traffic having to filter past as and when possible, not easy with heavy traffic in the opposite direction.

Yes the cyclist is entitled to use the road, yes the drivers should be patient and show restraint, but as we know that doesn't always happen.
 
It's a bit like about 80% of the fools turning first left on roundabout not being arsed to indicating and in return slowing down traffic. People like that should be fined.
It's the ones that give you a 'look' when turning but not indicating that get me. 'I know I should probably indicate but I either can't be ar5ed and/or I'm too 'cool' to do such a thing.'

No sir/madam, what you are is a class A tw*t!!!
 
Can you post the link/bit from the highway code you refer to and then I will compare it to the new one coming into play, Saturday.

You've clearly misunderstood the rules and once you post or won't post the link/etc as it does not exist as per your post, you'll notice you were wrong.

It's a bit like about 80% of the fools turning first left on roundabout not being arsed to indicating and in return slowing down traffic. People like that should be fined.

As I said, it was 17 years ago, and in a book. Might be tricky to find now.

I'll let the bike instructors know that they got it wrong.

Found this from 2017: "watch out for pedestrians crossing a road into which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way"

I guess it has changed as now check they are not about to cross, which is sensible. People generally get run over by drivers going too fast and not looking, so this rule is needed to stop idiots running pedestrians over while they are crossing the road.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170605192430/https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/road-junctions.html
 
Last edited:
As I said, it was 17 years ago, and in a book. Might be tricky to find now.

I'll let the bike instructors know that they got it wrong.
Thanks
Just shows the wrong info people can read, pick up when not from the horse's mouth, IE the Highway Code!!!

I've said it before, I'm all for a driving theroy test for all every year it will remove many of the bad drivers from our roads and make many up to standard.
 
It's the ones that give you a 'look' when turning but not indicating that get me. 'I know I should probably indicate but I either can't be ar5ed and/or I'm too 'cool' to do such a thing.'

No sir/madam, what you are is a class A tw*t!!!

Politely put. The "look" very true and I think, you are already very ugly whey make yourself look like an anus
 
Sponsored Links
Back
Top