Waste

[IT Minion]

Was it though in the circumstances? PPE has a shelf life, I dont recall anyone saying we had too much of it in 2020. One lesson is that we need to keep significant amounts of PPE in stock, which means most of it will be wasted pending the next pandemic.

1.5 Billion items are being destroyed. We over ordered and didn't have cancellation options.

Billions of pounds of other kit that wasn't fit for use that we still had to buy, then pay to burn, because of inept procurement.

This is not the worst of the scandal, but it is yet another reminder of how the Boris tactic of 'winging it' managed a pandemic.

 

[Brigadier]

A relative, manager in communications for NHS has too spend 10’s of thousands every year on phones, pads etc that are unneeded just to maintain his budget each year,

Was he buying them from a mate, who was boss of a [insert not-related-to-product-bought-business] though?

 

[blup]

1.5 Billion items are being destroyed. We over ordered and didn't have cancellation options.

With hind sight

Billions of pounds of other kit that wasn't fit for use that we still had to buy, then pay to burn, because of inept procurement.

The procurement of sub standard PPE is much more like scandal

This is not the worst of the scandal, but it is yet another reminder of how the Boris tactic of 'winging it' managed a pandemic.

I'm not sure BJ was involved in any of it apart from signing a few documents that he hadn't read before going off to celebrate another birthday. And some toreys seriously want him back as leader as if everything since 2019 didn't happen

 

[Andydevon]

It appears that a very significant problem was not the supply but breathtaking incompetence after the products were delivered.

Unused PPE worth £1.4bn was 'stored inappropriately'

Full Support Healthcare says its products were not unloaded from the shipping containers.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ellal]

1.5 Billion items are being destroyed. We over ordered and didn't have cancellation options.

Billions of pounds of other kit that wasn't fit for use that we still had to buy, then pay to burn, because of inept procurement.

This is not the worst of the scandal, but it is yet another reminder of how the Boris tactic of 'winging it' managed a pandemic.

But the blame game has started...

Linky Linky

"The UK's biggest supplier of unused Covid personal protective equipment (PPE) said its products might have spoiled because they were left in shipping containers for several months after being delivered."

"The deal between Full Support Healthcare and the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), which was worth £1.8bn, is understood to be the most wasteful of the pandemic"

It may be the most wasteful, but the percentage that they supplied is a fraction of the waste...

"As demand from hospitals for PPE surged in early 2020, it (Full Support Healthcare) mobilised huge quantities of stock from China and agreed orders amounting to 13% of the DHSC's total spend on Covid PPE"

Do the maths on the total waste!

 

[noseall]

The company involved says

...from their £30 million Barbados mansion, their tax dodging headquarters in Jersey or their yacht?

 

[IT Minion]

I dont recall anyone saying we had too much of it in 2020.

On this point alone we had the government say that we had enough before the pandemic. They'd been advised to stockpile more but rejected it on cost grounds.

UK was advised to stockpile PPE and screen travellers in 2016 after coronavirus modelling

The government was warned four years before the covid-19 pandemic of the need to stockpile personal protective equipment, screen international travellers, and set up a contact tracing system in the event of a major outbreak of a coronavirus, a previously unpublished report has revealed.1 The...

www.bmj.com

 

[IT Minion]

With hind sight

The procurement of sub standard PPE is much more like scandal

I'm not sure BJ was involved in any of it apart from signing a few documents that he hadn't read before going off to celebrate another birthday. And some toreys seriously want him back as leader as if everything since 2019 didn't happen

He was in charge, he set the standard. He set it very low.

The PPE procurement sidestepped all the usual processes. Which meant they made all the mistakes the usual processes avoid.

 

[ellal]

He was in charge, he set the standard. He set it very low.

The PPE procurement sidestepped all the usual processes. Which meant they made all the mistakes the usual processes avoid.

Let's not skirt around the issue...

"PPE was on average 80% more expensive when the government bought it from firms referred through a special “VIP lane” by Conservative ministers, MPs and officials, new information has revealed"

"The Good Law Project, which has long been investigating PPE deals during the Covid pandemic, said internal government documents showed that the unit price paid for items under VIP lane contracts was up to four times higher than average"

The PPE 'VIP lane' was simply corruption...

End of !

 

[JohnD]

Accountants discourage careful use of budgets, and reward spending.

That's if the people in charge instruct the accountants to operate that way.

It is perfectly simple to make a reserve against planned spending and carry forward unspent budget.

Cleaning the books at year end is just a ploy to avoid effort.

 

[blup]

That's if the people in charge instruct the accountants to operate that way.

It is perfectly simple to make a reserve against planned spending and carry forward unspent budget.

Cleaning the books at year end is just a ploy to avoid effort.

I don't think nhs accountants necessarily listen to reason and work that way

 

[JohnD]

I don't think nhs accountants necessarily listen to reason and work that way

nhs accountants are employees following the orders of the bosses

who are, ultimately, the government

 

[foxhole]

Was he buying them from a mate, who was boss of a [insert not-related-to-product-bought-business] though?

Completely missing the point

 

[JohnD]

Completely missing the point

The point is, are you a dedicated public servant seeking to obtain the best for the nation

or are you a corrupt self-serving toad looking for ways to help out your buddies by tipping taxpayers money into their wheelbarrow?

 

[Brigadier]

Completely missing the point

I'm really not.