And some say MP's are lazy work shirking buggers…

[noseall]

How is it the same?

Tory cronyism benefits Tory MPs, Tory private donors, Tory mates

What Andy forgets is lobbying cash, subsidises the campaign and is a political fund, and not privately beneficial.
Mone and her fellow greedy/grasbing scumbag chums, have privately benefitted from Tory 'generosity', directly affecting the taxpayer.
Tory scum.
Good of Andy to highlight the comparison though.

 

[denso13]

And wages still didn't keep up with inflation.

Correct, the train drivers deal for one is a real time pay cut.

 

[motorbiking]

Is there a shortage of qualified recruits ?

 

[blup]

Is there a shortage of qualified recruits ?

Yes, getting train drivers to close doors is like getting pilots to serve coffee, a superficially attractive argument can be made for both

 

[blup]

The real issue is that gee bee news is a subsidised mouth piece for the hard right. The real question is whether stormy has the balls to lean on ofcom to close it down for blatant breach of the rules on impartiality

 

[denso13]

Is there a shortage of qualified recruits ?

No idea.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

No idea.

What I heard suggests there is quite a queue wanting to be train drivers.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Is there a shortage of qualified recruits ?

So it's OK to force wages down do you mean?

 

[motorbiking]

Why should you earn more, than the next guy, capable and qualified to do your job? If there is a shortage and good people are leaving, then you have to pay more. If there isn't then you don't.

if you think you are worth more, go and get it for yourself.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Why should you earn more, than the next guy, capable and qualified to do your job? If there is a shortage and good people are leaving, then you have to pay more. If there isn't then you don't.

if you think you are worth more, go and get it for yourself.

And thats how you have bad management and worker relations. You give the impression that you are very good at that.

Force the money down, and then complain when they force you to pay up.

Watch inflation go up and pay not keep pace, what do you expect

 

[motorbiking]

What about the Bus driver, why shouldn't he earn the same as the train driver or the Marine Pilot, with vastly greater responsibility. Both of those have to steer.

 

[denso13]

If there is a shortage and good people are leaving, then you have to pay more. If there isn't then you don't.

So keep cutting wages until people start to leave then raise them just a little bit till people stay. I like your thinking...

 

[carmanmemoranda]

What about the Bus driver, why shouldn't he earn the same as the train driver or the Marine Pilot, with vastly greater responsibility. Both of those have to steer.

That's whataboutery at its finest.

Are you suggesting everybody should earn the same?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So keep cutting wages until people start to leave then raise them just a little bit till people stay. I like your thinking...

I dont

 

[denso13]

What about the Bus driver, why shouldn't he earn the same as the train driver or the Marine Pilot, with vastly greater responsibility

They've got greater responsibility the premier league footballers, and probably more qualifications as well. Shouldn't they be on the same wage as them, they don't steer either?