And some say MP's are lazy work shirking buggers…

[Notch7]

Same grift and cronyism different colour.

Nah, it’s nothing like it

Bogus PPE contracts tonTory mates £4.1b
ASLEF makes donation of £4000 to an MP

Slightly different

 

[JohnD]

In the recent GE, I donated £20 to the campaign fund of my local candidate.

I am not expecting a peerage or a multi-million pound sleaze contract in return.

Is that what @Andydevon thinks is "the same?"

 

[JohnD]

Same grift and cronyism different colour.

Now here's an interesting thing. Andy won't like it so he will try to pretend facts don't exist

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/labour-conservative-party-donations-2023-spending-analysis/

"Labour’s cash from private donors now dwarfs donations from unions, while the Tories got their biggest bung ever"

£20 from me or a million from some Tory oligarch.

Which is buying favours and influence?

 

[JohnD]

Hello, what's this?

Tories buying influence?

Where's Andy's comment?

"Of the £44.5m in cash received by the Conservatives last year, more than £20m came from two sources: John Sainsbury and Frank Hester, an IT entrepreneur from Leeds who has given £5m personally and another £5m through his firm, The Phoenix Partnership. Hester’s firm has profited from public sector contracts and his ties with the party are under heightened scrutiny following the publication of an investigation by the Guardian that revealed he had said former Labour MP Diane Abbott made him “want to hate all black women” and should be shot.
A further £11.3m came from five individuals:

• Mohamed Mansour, Egyptian-born billionaire who controls the behemoth conglomerate Mansour Group, which has interests in real estate, finance, retail and tech: £5m
• Graham Edwards, co-founder of one of the largest private companies in the UK, Telereal Trillium, which owns thousands of properties and approximately 60 million square feet of land: £2m
• Amit Lohia, son of billionaire petrochemical and fertiliser tycoon Sri Prakash Lohia, chair of Indorama: £2m
• Christopher Barry Wood, founder of biotech firm Medannex: £1.3m
• Alan Howard, hedge fund manager who co-founded Jersey-based Brevan Howard and has significant interests in crypto-currency: £1m"

 

[carmanmemoranda]

He is staying very quiet.
Especially after trying to tell me I was wrong for calling him out for only criticising Labour.

 

[JohnD]

"Mr Jenrick overruled the local authority and the planning inspector to approve the scheme for 1,500 houses in January, only weeks before Mr Desmond personally donated £12,000 to the Conservative Party."

Good value for a back-scratching buddy.

Robert Jenrick 'insistent' £1bn property development decision rushed through before Tory donor forced to pay extra taxes

Text messages show Richard Desmond lobbied the housing secretary to act so 'Marxists' did not get 'doe for nothing'

www.independent.co.uk

Shameless Tory sleaze.

The Islamophobic sleazebag hopes to be the next leader of the Tory party.

He'll fit in well.

"Mr Jenrick overruled the local authority and the planning inspector to approve the scheme for 1,500 houses in January, only weeks before Mr Desmond personally donated £12,000 to the Conservative Party.


The housing secretary later had to reverse the decision after legal action from the council, conceding the decision was “unlawful by reason of apparent bias”.

 

[Andydevon]

Well having now finished cooking dinner I can join back in. I have to say you are a shameful lot aren't you.

Its all about the delivery of the new administration. Not the old one. Carmen do I need to say for the third time?

The grift is still there does not matter the amount or the colour. Remember its labour now.

Tribal well the usual suspects join up and show their true worth.

Hinmmy the troll even joined in if that does not tell you something then you are realy blind.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Do they do that? It was the first increase in 5 years, that's what they were moaning about.

Perhaps they were already massively overpaid, for what they do, five years ago?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Well having now finished cooking dinner I can join back in. I have to say you are a shameful lot aren't you.

Its all about the delivery of the new administration. Not the old one. Carmen do I need to say for the third time?

The grift is still there does not matter the amount or the colour. Remember its labour now.

Tribal well the usual suspects join up and show their true worth.

Hinmmy the troll even joined in if that does not tell you something then you are realy blind.

If you actually criticised the tories about it, I might just believe you.

Aiming it at labour only shows your tribal nature.

Again. I don't agree with any party accepting donations, labour or Tory. But at least it is above board and not out of sight.

Then we move onto the different amounts involved.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Nudging £70k (without overtime) for pushing a lever back and forth is a little bit more than decent.

It is indecent!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It is indecent!

That's all the job involves too.

 

[motorbiking]

Yes it is, I said "in reality" 5 years. No pay rise in 5 years So,

• 0 percent for 2020 to 2021
• 0 per cent for 2021 to 2022
• 5 per cent for 2022-2023
• 4.75 per cent for 2023 to 2024
• 4.5 per cent for 2024 to 2025.

You haven’t had a pay rise in 5 years? Are trying to tell you something?

 

[motorbiking]

"The average train driver salary in the UK is £48,500 per year. Train drivers can expect to begin with an average starting salary of £30,000, with the highest salaries often exceeding £65,000."

Quite a few earning over 100k with overtime. Not bad for 2 GCSE/O Levels.

 

[motorbiking]

I can’t see any evidence there is a connection, but I think lobbying with intent to influence policy is totally wrong……Conservatives had effectively become puppets for the lobbyists, nothing they did was was in the interests of ordinary British people.

Labour has received a great deal of lobbyists money over the last year or so…..I do find that worrying

So Labour aren’t puppets for the unions. Righto

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Not true

Starting salary £30k

A guide to the salaries and benefits for UK train drivers

If you are interested in becoming a train driver, learn about the salaries and benefits you could be entitled to within the railway industry in the UK.

www.reed.com

Exactly, a starting salary after just 9 months. Not many highly skilled tradesmen can manage that, after just 9 months on the job.