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https://thevirustracker.com/coronavirus-deaths-where-you-live-england

I am in England today and the nearby borough shows (edit - 63 - it is not totalled by borough, might be registration district or something) confirmed CV deaths. It is a popular retirement area. The next town along only shows 3.

The website is a secondary source and I can't see that it says where it collected the data. Might be ONS.

I am blocking about half a dozen trackers, including facebook and twitter.
 
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EFLImpudence said:
Also, scroll down to the video for proof that they think/know most people are stupid and don't know that two metres is six feet six and three quarters.
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That's unfair, I doubt many people would know that, off the top of my head I know 1.8 mtrs is about 6 feet and 2.4 metres is about 8 feet. I tend to work in metres but sometimes when explaining something to a customer, you know when you see that 'confused look' that you've got to convert to feet and inches for them to visualize it.
Howdens catalogue, doors, 78" x 30", yeah they might have the metric equivalent in small print but if you asked at the counter for the metric size they'd have to refer to the catalogue for the imperial size. In fact, and this is true, if I ask for a 30" door, the bloke will often say 'what, 2 foot 6?', then I have to think 24 + 6 = 30, yeah, 2 foot six mate. I, and I know lots of other people in building refer to 8 x 4 sheets rather than 2.4 x 1.2, and on that note, why the *** is plasterboard 1.20m wide (yes I know, so you set your timbers at 40cm centres) but then osb and sometimes ply is 1.22 cms wide. Why?
I like metres and millimetres, much better for accurate measurements but it needs another generation or two to rid us of these filthy imperialistic measurements.

They never will though, an 8 x 4 sheet will always be an 8 x 4 sheet.
 
fillyboy said:
That's unfair, I doubt many people would know that, off the top of my head I know 1.8 mtrs is about 6 feet and 2.4 metres is about 8 feet. I tend to work in metres but sometimes when explaining something to a customer, you know when you see that 'confused look' that you've got to convert to feet and inches for them to visualize it.
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I was being sarcastic.

You don't have to know it. It is a very tall person.

Is it really necessary to explain how far two metres is by using pictures of people lying down, outstretched brooms, park benches and the like?
There's even one picture in the US that has an alligator between to figures.

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It might have occurred to you already that alligators start off a bit bigger than an egg and then can be any length up to five metres.


Is it, perhaps the people who produce these things who are a bit extremely thick?
 
P.S. I have no concept of distance because I don't know how long a football pitch is nor area because I don't know how big Wales is.
 
fillyboy said:
if I ask for a 30" door, the bloke will often say 'what, 2 foot 6?', then I have to think 24 + 6 = 30, yeah, 2 foot six mate
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^^Wot he said^^
And then just for fun, some bozo decides that they would produce thicker (40mm) taller metric doors, just to be awkward.
 
Does being in a care home take you outside of the NHS ? Seems odd to me that with all this access capacity of the NHS that they are letting the old just die in care homes.

And how has our NHS compared with other countries ? do we have any better record of saving lives in the NHS than other health care systems. We keep banging on about how fantastic they are, but what are the stats telling us?
 
Munroist said:
Does being in a care home take you outside of the NHS ? Seems odd to me that with all this access capacity of the NHS that they are letting the old just die in care homes.

And how has our NHS compared with other countries ? do we have any better record of saving lives in the NHS than other health care systems. We keep banging on about how fantastic they are, but what are the stats telling us?
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It doesn't take you outside the NHS but it does seem to reduce the odds of you being admitted to hospital. Some of the time because it's not worth the risk to the patient to move them, some of the time because the patient has a 'no treatment' policy, sometimes because the patient wouldn't benefit from more intensive treatment (yes we can put Bob on a respirator but he'll never be able to come off it as he'll be too weak) that hospitals provide over a care home, and probably a lot more reasons.

As for survivability, too early to say. The quality of the positive case numbers isn't good enough to tell. The mortality numbers are better but still pants. The excess mortality rates will be the closest to a comparable number but even then it's not that simple.
 
The numbers being reported now included all deaths with Covid as a factor.
We are a densely populated country with our population disproportionally located in the South/SE.
There have been reports that poorer countries are fairing better - thats probably explained by life expectancy and obesity.
To date the under 45s account for less than 1.25% of total deaths just 330 odd.
Over 75s account for 75% of all Covid deaths.

Correlate countries with high life expectancy, high density of people per km2 and you will see we easily predicted to be highly featured.

You could easily come up with a statistic that says the survival rate of people entering care homes is <1%, probably the same as a hospice. The fact is - people over 75 are at a high risk of dying full stop.
 
fillyboy said:
That's unfair, I doubt many people would know that, off the top of my head I know 1.8 mtrs is about 6 feet and 2.4 metres is about 8 feet. I tend to work in metres but sometimes when explaining something to a customer, you know when you see that 'confused look' that you've got to convert to feet and inches for them to visualize it.
Howdens catalogue, doors, 78" x 30", yeah they might have the metric equivalent in small print but if you asked at the counter for the metric size they'd have to refer to the catalogue for the imperial size. In fact, and this is true, if I ask for a 30" door, the bloke will often say 'what, 2 foot 6?', then I have to think 24 + 6 = 30, yeah, 2 foot six mate. I, and I know lots of other people in building refer to 8 x 4 sheets rather than 2.4 x 1.2, and on that note, why the fuk is plasterboard 1.20m wide (yes I know, so you set your timbers at 40cm centres) but then osb and sometimes ply is 1.22 cms wide. Why?
I like metres and millimetres, much better for accurate measurements but it needs another generation or two to rid us of these filthy imperialistic measurements.

They never will though, an 8 x 4 sheet will always be an 8 x 4 sheet.
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Bit of a mish mash, but it keeps you sharp, and separates the competent tradesman from the less well - versed. Perhaps?
 
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