Death penalty

[carmanmemoranda]

I think we both know what I think

And you may well be right.

But we don't know

 

[crystal ball]

I think we both know what I think

Not sure you "think" at all

 

[JonathanM]

I think we both know what I think

Would you still allow defences such as diminished responsibility, which would mean a mean a manslaughter verdict in some cases rather than murder. And if so would you still be in favour of execution in these cases.

 

[adlplumbing]

Would you still allow defences such as diminished responsibility, which would mean a mean a manslaughter verdict in some cases rather than murder. And if so would you still be in favour of execution in these cases.

of course, as that not premeditated.

 

[Notch7]

When the evidence is beyond all reasonable doubt

you can’t define the death penalty based on a bar which is subjective.

 

[chirpychippy]

Would you still allow defences such as diminished responsibility, which would mean a mean a manslaughter verdict in some cases rather than murder. And if so would you still be in favour of execution in these cases.

Solicitors are very adept at finding elements in peoples lives past or present to give the accused a plausible reason, such as trauma, to get a reduced conviction.

I already think the judicial system in this country is a farce. Imagine the back lash if the conviction is reduced to manslaughter.

Probably more riots.

Robert Thomson & Jon Venables, the latter is still in prison never to be released, whereas the former has a new identity and lives somewhere - taking into consideration they were 10 years of age when they Murdered James Bulger, then the Death Sentence isn't fitting as justice, but life should apply, until they die of natural causes or suicide.

I don't mind my taxes being used to keep those horrid people in prison.

 

[chirpychippy]

you can’t define the death penalty based on a bar which is subjective.

Cause and Effect - Aren't emotions the precursor to decisions? Big & Small.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

you can’t define the death penalty based on a bar which is subjective.

You can if its a slogan.

Well some can

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I don't mind my taxes being used to keep those horrid people in prison.

Nor do I

 

[Notch7]

simple

When people have a solution that involves deciding something is “simple” it almost always is not.

Arguing for the death penalty on a basis of retribution is shallow thinking, The death penalty offers the tragic illusion that we can defend life by taking life


Those people who want the death penalty in the U.K., might want to consider that would make the U.K. have something in its constitution that is most common in the Middle East and North Africa

 

[adlplumbing]

Those people who want the death penalty in the U.K., might want to consider that would make the U.K. have something in its constitution that is most common in the Middle East and North Africa

A bit racist saying that's a problem, that they have it theirs, and therefore it is inherently bad.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

A bit racist saying that's a problem, that they have it theirs, and therefore it is inherently bad.

Well that's 1 way of looking at it.

Others might say we are more civilised and have a better way of life than other countries.

And use comparisons.

It's not racist to want high standards.

 

[Notch7]

A bit racist saying that's a problem, that they have it theirs, and therefore it is inherently bad.

90% of women are subjected to female genital mutilation in Egypt.

Is it racist or me to say that’s a problem?
Or is it stating a fact?

 

[adlplumbing]

Well that's 1 way of looking at it.

Others might say we are more civilised and have a better way of life than other countries.

And use comparisons.

It's not racist to want high standards.

so they have low standards?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

so they have low standards?

If you consider ours as higher, or better then yes. If not, then no.

Or even just different.

Which standards do you prefer ?