EV are they worth it?

[ReganAndCarter]

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[DiyNutJob]

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[Brigadier]

Thanks Mods

 

[DiyNutJob]

Thanks Mods

How do you work out what is helpful and what isn't? Only pro-EV posts are helpful?

 

[Brigadier]

How do you work out what is helpful and what isn't? Only pro-EV posts are helpful?

A helpful or informative post would still be there.

QED.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Is this helpful?

 

[flameport]

Is this helpful?

No, it's just more drivel from the usual suspects.

Probably compares the cheapest petrol available with the most expensive motorway EV charging that can be found, and assumes that everyone drives to that motorway charger for 100% of their charging.

 

[DiyNutJob]

No, it's just more drivel from the usual suspects.

Probably compares the cheapest petrol available with the most expensive motorway EV charging that can be found, and assumes that everyone drives to that motorway charger for 100% of their charging.

Comparing like for like is reasonable. You don't see me complaining about driving onto the motorway for petrol. I don't insist on installing a petrol station at home.

 

[StephenStephen]

Comparing like for like is reasonable. You don't see me complaining about driving onto the motorway for petrol. I don't insist on installing a petrol station at home.

Oh ok - like for like...

So how well is your home petrol fuelling at cheap rate working for you?

 

[robinbanks]

Answer for EV's was worked out so many years ago with the Bedford CF van, where you swapped batteries rather than charge them in place.

Do you know how much an EV battery weighs?

You don't see me .. driving onto the motorway for petrol

So, do make sure you're being fair and balanced with your "like with like" arguments

I don't insist on installing a petrol station at home.

What would be the point? Petrol doesn't come to your house

 

[ericmark]

Do you know how much an EV battery weighs?


So, do make sure you're being fair and balanced with your "like with like" arguments


What would be the point? Petrol doesn't come to your house

A lot less today than when Bedford CF was made, they used lead acid. And my EV (e-bike) I often leave bike in back of car and just take battery to recharge it. So it depends on size of EV.

This is the point, we don't tend to buy cans of Prats petrol at the chemist any more, the re-fuelling practices have changed over the years, we would have a fuel bowser going around plant on site re-fuelling, and JCB have produced hydrogen powered plant due to this, as one can't really drive the D8 to an electric power point, only way you could re-fuel with electric would be battery swap, or a generator the latter kind of defeats whole idea of electric.

Even if the petrol engine was 50 cc and the generator was only used when you can't find a parking space with a charger, it would transform the electric to a useable form of transport, but I want to re-fuel either when doing some thing else, or fast maybe taking 5 minutes.

Had enough with house, only doing washing when sun shines, watching battery level all the time, why are there no solar panels on car roofs?

 

[JohnD]

why are there no solar panels on car roofs?

Not big enough to be worthwhile.

Move to Australia or Somalia and put some on the carport.

 

[securespark]

I do too. I also like the smell of pipe tobacco (before you put a match to it)!

I love the smell of Diesel.

And I agree with you about unburnt pipe baccy. My Dad used to smoke Clan.

And freshly ground coffee (before adding water). But I don't like or drink it.

 

[ericmark]

My Dad used to smoke Clan.

Oh I remember it well, Holland House was the other one. Had mine confiscated by the Police, they thought it was flax or something, got it back, OK in a pipe, but no good for role your own.

I hate the smell of 28 sec gas oil, but no real option, it heats the house.

They add the smell to gas for safety, maybe we should add noise to electric cars, but the buses in Chester in the 80's had a buzzer, but it did not work, no one associated the sound with a vehicle. The electric buses did not last long.

The Wrexham bypass has a speed restriction to improve air quality, there is no exemption for EV's.

 

[Avocet]

Even governments forcing people to have EVs - they still can't shift the things. I would worry about resale values of any EV if I had just paid through the nose to be seen to be green

Electric shock – Fiat halts production of 500 EV | Autocar

"Deep difficulties" in European EV market mean the electric city car won't be built for four weeks

www.autocar.co.uk

This story after Fiat recently re-introduced the petrol 500.

Sadly, they have to. People don't like change. Don't get me wrong, they'll vote for it. They know it's the right thing to do. They'll be all over the idea of reducing the nation's carbon emissions... until they actually have to get off their backsides and do something themselves...

But it was ever thus. The Clean Air Act in the 1950s also had its share of opposition - and more recently, the smoking ban. There are very vocal minorities out there, who wouldn't have a platform, were it not for social media, but when the chips are down, broadly speaking, the majority of people still want to do the right thing. If you'd listened to the vocal minority on social media, the London ULEZ expansion was going to be the death of Khan, but actually, he got reelected.

Governments making policy to nudge people in the right direction is nothing new. Those campaigning against the roll-out of EVs by spreading their FUD, are gradually losing the war. As more and more ordinary people take the plunge and realise that a lot of the scare stories are actually BS and that running an EV is actually "OK", this will only end one way...