I am so glad that Mrs Thatcher..............................

[snico]

Why did they sack you then?

Never got sacked.....keep trying!

 

[joe-90]

We know the truth m'lord. No more questions.

 

[chapeau]

Why did they sack you then?

Never got sacked.....keep trying!

My New Year's resolution (implemented two days ago) is to ignore Joe cos he is a numbskull. You should try it.

 

[snico]

Maybe I left for a far better paid job, with better working hours and terms.

I certainly never left on health grounds, never recieved a big fat pension, and never got a compo!

 

[snico]

Why did they sack you then?

Never got sacked.....keep trying!

My New Year's resolution (implemented two days ago) is to ignore Joe cos he is a numbskull. You should try it.

It passes time though!

 

[chapeau]

Why did they sack you then?

Never got sacked.....keep trying!

My New Year's resolution (implemented two days ago) is to ignore Joe cos he is a numbskull. You should try it.

It passes time though!

Yes I thought that but he is simply too annoying and too stupid to 'geddit'

 

[AronSearle]

So clearly you don't know the difference between council housing and normal private housing.

The housing shortage is down purely down to a mixture of older toss pots refusing houses to be built on "their fields", and the way in which land is released to developers.

The "right to buy" only affects the availability of council housing, and is only 1 factor affecting availability.

Totally wrong.....Right to buy houses where sold to tennants. This took a a large chunk of cheaper properties out of the scheme.

These houses where not replaced due to the fact that Thatcher would not let councils build replacement housing with the proceeds.....do a bit of research before replying to a comment.

Stop being blinkered and only looking at the issue from 1 angle, you must have been a **** copper if you can't look at more than 1 cause.



Firstly housing and council housing are two different things, something you seem to either refuse to comment on or understand, I suspect the latter as you referred to it as the "housing shortage" twice.

Yes, right to buy reduced the number of council houses, but also removed 2 million people from social into private housing, the "shortage" is caused by more people wanting social housing than demand after 2 million where removed from the social need.

Why does the need for social housing keep increasing, oh yes, let's just bash "right to buy".

Nothing to do with private houses not being built because of highly restrictive planning issues, massivly inflating the cost of private housing, and causing many people with who actually have jobs and earn a wage, putting themselves on the council house list.

Yes, that's right, people who should be able to buy privately are priced out of it.

And what about......

(social housing occupancy) One person households rose from 24 percent to 40 percent in the same period. The proportion of lone parents also rose, from 6 percent in 1977/78 to 18 percent by 2001.

Well, what do y'know, who would have thought that would have any bearing on the council house "shortage".

Maybe if all those chavs didn't breed kids and then both the mother and father live in separate social houses there wouldn't be so much of a "shortage".

do a bit of research before replying to a comment.

I suggest you take your own advice copper, or is a bit of fact finding beyond your skill-set, what were you, a lollipop officer?

 

[joe-90]

Why did they sack you then?

Never got sacked.....keep trying!

My New Year's resolution (implemented two days ago) is to ignore Joe cos he is a numbskull. You should try it.

Pity he can kick your ass time after time. How dumb must you be then?

 

[jeds]

There are several reasons for the housing shortage. Sale of council housing is a relatively minor one. Much of the sold off property was replaced via housing associations through the 80s and early 90s. Far more significant was the long period of economic growth through the 90s and naughties and the lack of land. Most of what land is left is held by housing developers but much of it cannot developed at present due to planning constraints (e.g. green belts) or due to social housing contribution which is too onerous and renders many sites unviable.

 

[chapeau]

Absolutely loads of houses out there, people cannot afford them. These sites are only 'unviable' because the developers paid too much for the land/are greedy. Houses actually cost very little to build, relatively.

 

[snico]

So clearly you don't know the difference between council housing and normal private housing.

The housing shortage is down purely down to a mixture of older toss pots refusing houses to be built on "their fields", and the way in which land is released to developers.

The "right to buy" only affects the availability of council housing, and is only 1 factor affecting availability.

Totally wrong.....Right to buy houses where sold to tennants. This took a a large chunk of cheaper properties out of the scheme.

These houses where not replaced due to the fact that Thatcher would not let councils build replacement housing with the proceeds.....do a bit of research before replying to a comment.

Stop being blinkered and only looking at the issue from 1 angle, you must have been a s**t copper if you can't look at more than 1 cause.



Firstly housing and council housing are two different things, something you seem to either refuse to comment on or understand, I suspect the latter as you referred to it as the "housing shortage" twice.

Yes, right to buy reduced the number of council houses, but also removed 2 million people from social into private housing, the "shortage" is caused by more people wanting social housing than demand after 2 million where removed from the social need.

Why does the need for social housing keep increasing, oh yes, let's just bash "right to buy".

Nothing to do with private houses not being built because of highly restrictive planning issues, massivly inflating the cost of private housing, and causing many people with who actually have jobs and earn a wage, putting themselves on the council house list.

Yes, that's right, people who should be able to buy privately are priced out of it.

And what about......

(social housing occupancy) One person households rose from 24 percent to 40 percent in the same period. The proportion of lone parents also rose, from 6 percent in 1977/78 to 18 percent by 2001.

Well, what do y'know, who would have thought that would have any bearing on the council house "shortage".

Maybe if all those chavs didn't breed kids and then both the mother and father live in separate social houses there wouldn't be so much of a "shortage".

do a bit of research before replying to a comment.

I suggest you take your own advice copper, or is a bit of fact finding beyond your skill-set, what were you, a lollipop officer?

You still not done your research have you, keep trying

 

[peterperfection]

So clearly you don't know the difference between council housing and normal private housing.

The housing shortage is down purely down to a mixture of older toss pots refusing houses to be built on "their fields", and the way in which land is released to developers.

The "right to buy" only affects the availability of council housing, and is only 1 factor affecting availability.

Totally wrong.....Right to buy houses where sold to tennants. This took a a large chunk of cheaper properties out of the scheme.

These houses where not replaced due to the fact that Thatcher would not let councils build replacement housing with the proceeds.....do a bit of research before replying to a comment.

Stop being blinkered and only looking at the issue from 1 angle, you must have been a s**t copper if you can't look at more than 1 cause.



Firstly housing and council housing are two different things, something you seem to either refuse to comment on or understand, I suspect the latter as you referred to it as the "housing shortage" twice.

Yes, right to buy reduced the number of council houses, but also removed 2 million people from social into private housing, the "shortage" is caused by more people wanting social housing than demand after 2 million where removed from the social need.

Why does the need for social housing keep increasing, oh yes, let's just bash "right to buy".

Nothing to do with private houses not being built because of highly restrictive planning issues, massivly inflating the cost of private housing, and causing many people with who actually have jobs and earn a wage, putting themselves on the council house list.

Yes, that's right, people who should be able to buy privately are priced out of it.

And what about......

(social housing occupancy) One person households rose from 24 percent to 40 percent in the same period. The proportion of lone parents also rose, from 6 percent in 1977/78 to 18 percent by 2001.

Well, what do y'know, who would have thought that would have any bearing on the council house "shortage".

Maybe if all those chavs didn't breed kids and then both the mother and father live in separate social houses there wouldn't be so much of a "shortage".

do a bit of research before replying to a comment.

I suggest you take your own advice copper, or is a bit of fact finding beyond your skill-set, what were you, a lollipop officer?

You still not done your research have you, keep trying

Why bother about buying a house- ?? when most people these days prefer to rent one off council iff poss.
Get new kitchens, bathrooms, porches and even gardens done.
Old days were best though- when all painting of front doors was done too- any colur you like-- as long as it's green.
A bit like 'smart water'

 

[AronSearle]

You still not done your research have you, keep trying

And you add nothing of value, no counterpoints, no sources of information.

Probably to used to being traffic cop where thinking wasn't part of the job.

If you think the council house "shortage" is down purely to right to buy, your an utter tool, probably the kind of person that would vote for a pig with a red rosette.

Why bother about buying a house- ?? when most people these days prefer to rent one off council iff poss.
Get new kitchens, bathrooms, porches and even gardens done.

Someone gets it.

I know plenty of people that live in social housing far better than they could afford to pay for privately, a number of them are fairly honest, and some of the blame is to be laid at overpriced housing, but for some, well why lower themselves to cheaper places when they can just live of the taxpayer.

 

[peterperfection]

You still not done your research have you, keep trying

And you add nothing of value, no counterpoints, no sources of information.

Probably to used to being traffic cop where thinking wasn't part of the job.

If you think the council house "shortage" is down purely to right to buy, your an utter tool, probably the kind of person that would vote for a pig with a red rosette.

Why bother about buying a house- ?? when most people these days prefer to rent one off council iff poss.
Get new kitchens, bathrooms, porches and even gardens done.

Someone gets it.

I know plenty of people that live in social housing far better than they could afford to pay for privately, a number of them are fairly honest, and some of the blame is to be laid at overpriced housing, but for some, well why lower themselves to cheaper places when they can just live of the taxpayer.

Very true-- and best part is-- if they 'knock out' a few more kids-- council will give them a bigger house or knock 2 council houses together for them.
Of course- the standard terms apply- no removal expensives, more allowance money for the kids and more beer money for the dad (or dads) .
So- that's 2 houses for 1 family .

 

[snico]

You still not done your research have you, keep trying

And you add nothing of value, no counterpoints, no sources of information.

Probably to used to being traffic cop where thinking wasn't part of the job.

If you think the council house "shortage" is down purely to right to buy, your an utter tool, probably the kind of person that would vote for a pig with a red rosette.

Why bother about buying a house- ?? when most people these days prefer to rent one off council iff poss.
Get new kitchens, bathrooms, porches and even gardens done.

Someone gets it.

I know plenty of people that live in social housing far better than they could afford to pay for privately, a number of them are fairly honest, and some of the blame is to be laid at overpriced housing, but for some, well why lower themselves to cheaper places when they can just live of the taxpayer.

If the right to buy was not brought in (which I have nothing against) then then the amount of council and association housing would not have dropped 40%. The money from sales was not allowed to go to building new homes.....which it should have done.....which causes a shortage of homes....do you get it yet!