Is he Right?? Tory That Blames Foodbanks Use on Those that "Can't Cook, Budget"

I might ask you, and all the other virtue-signalers on here, the same thing.

My wife works in a school and sees this first hand. Several times teachers have given their own money to send assistants (my wife's role) to the coop to buy sandwiches for hungry children, who are literally passing out at their desks in the morning.

A good friend teaches in another school, and says same thing often happens, and more kids one free school meals that ever.

Strange that the Tory supporting newspapers are not sharing this reality with voters.
 
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Nope, just pointing out the absurdity of blaming it on the Tories, it's a 'problem' in many wealthy countries.

That some countries do more to help than others. An area that the Tories always attack one way or another maybe mentioning scroungers. Popular misconception? When the area is looked at in detail there isn't much of it. Cameron effectively says SEP and charity needs to pick things up as they did in the past. Interesting comment.

The labour market is much simpler. Employers want to pay as little as possible,. The pay rates change on the basis of availability as you may have noticed with HGV drivers recently. This even applies to fruit pickers plus the problem that they don't get to work all year round. Jobs that offer higher pay attract more people eg the number of people after say B Techs and degrees in these areas increase. This can result in a surplus so salaries may go down. It's likely to show up first when qualified people apply for their 1st job. They may also suffer from companies wanting people with real experience. That will push salaries down even lower. Training people and also giving them experience costs companies money.

As qualification levels increase so does the requirements for jobs. Too high may even prevent some people from getting lower level jobs. My son came back with a 1st class honours. I could say more about the possible effects of that but wont.

Oddly no one wants 100% full employment. You can guess which end of the spectrum is likely to suffer most. The term sometimes used is the need for a mobile work force. People needing to work overtime is also a good idea as there are never too many of them about. That suites some areas. Even better if pay levels are set where they are bound to want to do it.

Then just picking something out of thin air - working tax credit etc ideas. You might say they are needed because people aren't paid enough. Other support might creep in as well. Then take unemployment. There are 2 numbers - those and also economically inactive. Then the employed. People can flit in and out of all pretty quickly. So some one gets support, gets some sort of job so looses some or all of it and then finds they are unemployed or the pay changes. I wonder how long it takes to get the support again? Pass no personal experience but have heard that it can be a problem.

The answer - pass but it all seems to be self reinforcing to me. The question is in which direction.
 
A Short History of Food Banks, a Modern Phenomenon (ibtimes.co.uk)

A Short History of Food Banks, a Modern Phenomenon
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    By Hannah OsborneApril 16, 2014 12:55 BST


Almost a million people used emergency food banks over 2013/14, trebling the number needing the service from a year earlier.

A decade ago food banks hardly existed in the UK. They are a relatively recent phenomenon whose development accelerated in the wake the financial crisis in 2008.

But where did the concept of food banks come from? According to the European Federation of Food Banks, the idea started after John Van Hengel, from Phoenix, US, saw a widow and her 10 children looking through rubbish behind grocery stores for food.


He helped her find edible food and asked the store owners to give him the products they would have thrown out so he could distribute them to the needy.

The first food bank was set up in Europe in 1984. Cécile Bigot heard of food banks through Francis Lopez, who set up the Edmonton's Food Bank in Canada. She contacted several charities with the idea in a bid to help Paris' poorest amid rising poverty in the capital city.
This was shortly followed by the establishment of the first food bank in Brussels, after which the European Federation of Food Banks launched in 1986.
Food banks spread across Europe after this, with centres set up in Spain, Italy, Ireland and Portugal by 1992. Between 1994 and 2001, food banks appeared in Poland, Greece and Luxembourg.
The UK and wealthier nations did not set up food banks until later. Since 2004, they have been established in the UK, Germany and Hungary.
Food banks became increasingly prevalent following the financial crisis in 2008 and after austerity measures were introduced by the government in 2010.

In the UK, most food banks are co-ordinated by The Trussell Trust, a Christian-based charity that had just two food banks in 2004. It now has 423 food banks from which 913,138 people received three days' emergency food last year.

Trussell said their latest figures have triggered the "biggest ever faith leader intervention on UK food poverty in modern times".

Charity chairman Chris Mould said: "That 900,000 people have received three days' food from a food bank, close to triple the numbers helped last year, is shocking in 21st century Britain.

"But perhaps most worrying of all this figure is just the tip of the iceberg of UK food poverty, it doesn't include those helped by other emergency food providers, those living in towns where there is no food bank, people who are too ashamed to seek help or the large number of people who are only just coping by eating less and buying cheap food.

"In the last year we've seen things get worse, rather than better, for many people on low-incomes. It's been extremely tough for a lot of people, with parents not eating properly in order to feed their children and more people than ever experiencing seemingly unfair and harsh benefits sanctions.

"Unless there is determined policy action to ensure that the benefits of national economic recovery reach people on low-incomes we won't see life get better for the poorest anytime soon."
 
There was soup kitchens for years before food banks appear so it's not really a new thing.
 
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I might ask you, and all the other virtue-signalers on here, the same thing.
I grew up poor as pi$$ - rented house in a terraced street, divorced parents, single mom trying her best, free school meals etc. My wife deals with poor, hungry and disadvantaged sprogs every day.

Try my arse.
 
I grew up poor as pi$$ - rented house in a terraced street, divorced parents, single mom trying her best, free school meals etc. My wife deals with poor, hungry and disadvantaged sprogs every day.

Try my arse.

we were so poor we were poorer than ***s

we had to recycle tea bags and at one time we had to eat our own shoes
 
Try as I might I haven't seen any of these poverty-stricken souls about our towns and cities.

do you do charity work for your local food bank or the Salvation army or Shelter?



perhaps you could explain what places you visit or pass where you will see people who are hungry???
 
It's a stupid thing to say, even if there may be some truth in it. Some people can't cook, some people are too stupid to cook, some people are too lazy to cook. Changing that might well be a good thing, but it isn't going to dramatically change fortunes when fuel accounts for 25% of income.
apparently there are discussions appearing on SM about how to heat baked beans with a night light
 
Nope, just pointing out the absurdity of blaming it on the Tories, it's a 'problem' in many wealthy countries.

It was Tories policy to introduce the Universal Credit system and its toxic way cutting people benefits for no good reason -leaving them starving
It was Tory policy to make PIP assessments run by private operators and make so many people fail it -even peope dying of cancer
It was Tory policy to flog off millions of council houses
It was Tory policy to cut public services until they fail
It was Tory policy to have 10 years of austerity
It was Tory policy that ensured 10 years of wage stagnation for the poorest whilst massive increases in wealth for the richest
It was Tory policy to flog off energy sector and make it fail
It was Tory policy to not ensure UK had sufficient gas storage
It was Tory policy to allow London to be money laundering centre of the world -enabling Putin
It was Tory policy to enable brexit causing massive cost increases in red tape
It was Tory policy to enable brexit making veg and fruit rot in fields putting up prices
It was Tory policy to have massive PPE corruption meaning less money for the poor
It was Tory policy to not make any effort to recover covid fraud -less money for poor
It was Tory policy to not stop increase in zero hour contracts
It was Tory policy to allow housing market to be dictated by rich housebuilder and trapping people in rented accomodation
It was Tory policy to make terrible decisions on covid and end up with -10% gdp in 2020


I blame it on Tories, because it is their F****g fault
And tw@ts like you spend your time supporting the lying Chunts
 
If we'd have voted labour in the last GE, we'd all be enjoying free internet by now. That was the big promise, wasn't it?
 
Charity chairman Chris Mould said: "That 900,000 people have received three days' food from a food bank, close to triple the numbers helped last year, is shocking in 21st century Britain.

That is probably packs of food not people but bear in perishables are not included.
 
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