****lers At It Again

[ajohn]

Brexit pushed several buttons.

Racism all along.
Immigration while not being aware of where most come from.
Constitution when we don't have one and probably never will.
Bureaucrats - another name for civil servants. It was the UK's turn to head that lot - the only one of the lot that might have been knighted,
Standards - bit odd that they are much the same in all developed countries so to sell there meet the.
We won the war - well yes with an awful lot of help from all over the place - not just the USA who bankrupted us. They didn't give the stuff away.
Money going into the EU, neglecting what comes back and why and where that is spent.
Borders - we have never opened ours. Try going to France or anywhere else without a passport.
Nationalistic thoughts. Much like some in Scotland and Wales have - I wonder why?

More than enough for the media pay ground to work with as little else around to use long term.

End result out - no one knows. Probably take years to find out. Maybe even a generation.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

When these illegals land on the beach, where do they go from there?
Are there taxis waiting to pick them up or do they use public transport.

They end up working in the black economy (no pun intended). If you live in a "vibrant, multicultural" part of Britain, you will be familiar with shops, restaurants, takeaways, garages, tyre-fitters, breaker's yards, factories and all manner of small businesses run by foreigners and staffed by an ever-changing cast of people who speak no English - these are your illegal, undocumented immigrants. They do not come here "on-spec", they have jobs waiting for them, arranged by relatives and other contacts. They work for low wages paid in cash, of which they send a large proportion back to their families in their countries of origin. "Western Union" and other such money transfer companies proliferate in these "vibrant, multicultural" areas, facilitating the transfer of Sterling out of the country. Some of the money is posted directly as cash through Royal Mail.

 

[ajohn]

They end up working in the black economy (no pun intended). If you live in a "vibrant, multicultural" part of Britain, you will be familiar with shops, restaurants, takeaways, garages, tyre-fitters, breaker's yards, factories and all manner of small businesses run by foreigners and staffed by an ever-changing cast of people who speak no English - these are your illegal, undocumented immigrants. They do not come here "on-spec", they have jobs waiting for them, arranged by relatives and other contacts. They work for low wages paid in cash, of which they send a large proportion back to their families in their countries of origin. "Western Union" and other such money transfer companies proliferate in these "vibrant, multicultural" areas, facilitating the transfer of Sterling out of the country. Some of the money is posted directly as cash through Royal Mail.

Good grief. I live in one, have worked in several areas like that and have visited more. I had no idea that was going on. Must also explain all of the changing faces in local shops where some must have bleached themselves but not all. Couldn't possibly relate to job entitlements that come with time. Some particularly related to food and eating seem to have had the same people working there for many years.

I'm amazed coast guards don't notice ships the size of the QE2 dropping them off.

I'm wondering what you are smoking, sniffing, injecting or if you would be better off seeing a psychiatrist. 3 of those might decide you should be sectioned.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Good grief. I live in one, have worked in several areas like that and have visited more. I had no idea that was going on. Must also explain all of the changing faces in local shops where some must have bleached themselves but not all. Couldn't possibly relate to job entitlements that come with time. Some particularly related to food and eating seem to have had the same people working there for many years.

I'm amazed coast guards don't notice ships the size of the QE2 dropping them off.

I'm wondering what you are smoking, sniffing, injecting or if you would be better off seeing a psychiatrist. 3 of those might decide you should be sectioned.

Jeez. You've written some unintelligible outpourings on here, but this one is a corker. As one who lives in Birmingham, I would imagine that you may be able to tell what a 'vibrant, multicultural' city is. A complete toilet. My brother went to Birmingham Poly in the early 90s and it was being taken over then. And you really can't see what's going on? You think that illegal's aren't entering in large numbers? A whole lorry load of Chinese died not long ago. For every one we hear about, thousands will get through. Just because you are unable or more likely unwilling to see what's going on, there's no need to doubt the sanity of others. From the twaddle you write, you're completely half-baked.

 

[Vinty]

.Panorama did a documentary a couple of years ago, it was about these people trafficker gangs in France, the traffickers were highly organised.
In the camps in Calais the traffickers were running their operations like some sort of travel agency, the punters who were trying to get to England would go to traffickers "office" in a ramshackle hut to book a seat on one the boats heading across the channel, one of the ringleaders of the traffickers allowed the panorama team to film him going back and forward on a channel ferry to organise things on the English side of the Channel.
What was incredible was that the BBC panorama team had no trouble finding these trafficking gangs but the police in France appeared oblivious to what was going on.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

.Panorama did a documentary a couple of years ago, it was about these people trafficker gangs in France, the traffickers were highly organised.
In the camps in Calais the traffickers were running their operations like some sort of travel agency, the punters who were trying to get to England would go to traffickers "office" in a ramshackle hut to book a seat on one the boats heading across the channel, one of the ringleaders of the traffickers allowed the panorama team to film him going back and forward on a channel ferry to organise things on the English side of the Channel.
What was incredible was that the BBC panorama team had no trouble finding these trafficking gangs but the police in France appeared oblivious to what was going on.

You terrible man, in all my years, you're dreaming, this can't have happened, how dare you, there's nothing to see here, move along, we don't have unchecked immigration, you need a doctor, you're making it up to suit your own agenda, we don't have unchecked immigration, you are foaming at the mouth, I blame the Daily Mail, where would we be without curry, we don't make out own stuff anymore, we don't have unchecked immigration, the NHS is wonderful, what have you been smoking, injecting or insufflating, lend me ten thousand quid I'll pay it back after my holiday.

 

[noseall]

You terrible man, in all my years, you're dreaming, this can't have happened, how dare you, there's nothing to see here, move along, we don't have unchecked immigration, you need a doctor, you're making it up to suit your own agenda, we don't have unchecked immigration, you are foaming at the mouth, I blame the Daily Mail, where would we be without curry, we don't make out own stuff anymore, we don't have unchecked immigration, the NHS is wonderful, what have you been smoking, injecting or insufflating, lend me ten thousand quid I'll pay it back after my holiday.

Don't let it eat you up boyo, there's nowt you can do about it. Who would deliver your curry in any case.

 

[fillyboy]

Don't let it eat you up boyo, there's nowt you can do about it. Who would deliver your curry in any case.

Blimey nosy you're up early for a Sunday. Are you putting out the hymn books and lighting the candles for the local church?

 

[noseall]

Blimey nosy you're up early for a Sunday. Are you putting out the hymn books and lighting the candles for the local church?

Amen to that.

 

[festive]

Migrants have gathered in and around Calais, on the northern French coast, since at least the late 1990s[1] seeking to enter the United Kingdom from the French port by crossing the Channel Tunnel[2] or stowing away in the cargo area of lorries heading for ferries that cross the English Channel.[3] During this time, informal camps of migrants have formed, the most notorious commonly referred to as the Calais Jungle. Other migrants come to the area because they are homeless while seeking asylum in France.[4] The presence of migrants in and around Calais has affected the British and French governments, the Eurotunnel and P&O Ferries companies, and lorry drivers heading for the UK and their companies. EuroTunnel (now Getlink), the company that operates the Channel Tunnel, said that it intercepted more than 37,000 migrants between January and July 2015.[5]

 

[noseall]

Migrants have gathered in and around Calais, on the northern French coast, since at least the late 1990s[1] seeking to enter the United Kingdom from the French port by crossing the Channel Tunnel[2] or stowing away in the cargo area of lorries heading for ferries that cross the English Channel.[3] During this time, informal camps of migrants have formed, the most notorious commonly referred to as the Calais Jungle. Other migrants come to the area because they are homeless while seeking asylum in France.[4] The presence of migrants in and around Calais has affected the British and French governments, the Eurotunnel and P&O Ferries companies, and lorry drivers heading for the UK and their companies. EuroTunnel (now Getlink), the company that operates the Channel Tunnel, said that it intercepted more than 37,000 migrants between January and July 2015.[5]

What's you point?

 

[ajohn]

All countries have illegal immigrants - an infinitely small proportion of the population

Jeez. You've written some unintelligible outpourings on here, but this one is a corker. As one who lives in Birmingham, I would imagine that you may be able to tell what a 'vibrant, multicultural' city is. A complete toilet. My brother went to Birmingham Poly in the early 90s and it was being taken over then. And you really can't see what's going on? You think that illegal's aren't entering in large numbers? A whole lorry load of Chinese died not long ago. For every one we hear about, thousands will get through. Just because you are unable or more likely unwilling to see what's going on, there's no need to doubt the sanity of others. From the twaddle you write, you're completely half-baked.

You obviously are in need of a psychiatrist. Many areas of the country have tiny numbers of illegals it's the same the world over in all developed countries. Periodically they get found. Usually being used in numbers. They are about because it's not possible to stop some arriving. Clearly they all come here to go to B'ham Poly and can't speak English. The lorry load of Chinese - kitted out as per a slave ship a lot more could be got in. Actually they were Vietnamese. 39 of them packed into a reefer as the trade call them to bypass dog checks at the ports. They are air tight. As it was all organised from Ireland that is where they may have finished up to be used as slave labour. Or

There have been estimates of at least 22,000 Vietnamese-born people living in England and Wales, 60% of whom reside in London.

London has the most of just about all.

Go to any major city in the UK and you will find a mix of colours. A high proportion of all will have been born here. Figure out why. Often when race is viewed as bad 1/2 million students on visas are included plus others. Education and race indicates that some races are much more determined to get qualification than others or given posts like yours maybe they are more intelligent than you at least. I'm inclined to think that due to background they try harder. Driven by parents.

Refugees are another area. International law says they have to be admitted. They are legal. They tend to come from areas with tribal problems run by some despot. A number of countries run by similar never have problems or another despot wants to gain power. Figure out why some of these happen yourself and who started them,

People who get here illegally eventually have problems as they don't exist. They can't for instance get a legal job so generally they will be exploited. Not being able to speak English helps with that. If you hear some race chatting in their own language don't assume they can't speak English. They are no different to a lot and increasing numbers of Welsh. Some Irish can speak their own language as well and do when they feel like it.

 

[Vinty]

You terrible man, in all my years, you're dreaming, this can't have happened, how dare you, there's nothing to see here, move along, we don't have unchecked immigration, you need a doctor, you're making it up to suit your own agenda, we don't have unchecked immigration, you are foaming at the mouth, I blame the Daily Mail, where would we be without curry, we don't make out own stuff anymore, we don't have unchecked immigration, the NHS is wonderful, what have you been smoking, injecting or insufflating, lend me ten thousand quid I'll pay it back after my holiday.

Of course what has to be considered is that the Panorama documentary i was referring to was made by John Sweeney, a notorious liar who made a career out twisting the truth and smearing people on behalf of the BBC.
That was until Tommy Robinson turned tables on him by secretly taping Sweeney discussing a plan to smear Robinson.
So i don't know if anything produced by Panorama can be considered reliable.

 

[festive]

What's you point?

Zulus... faasands of em..

 

[JohnD]

a notorious liar

like our Prime Minister.